For non-Jewish Ukrainians, Stalin was a greater danger to their survival than Hitler.
Keeping Stalin out was a matter of life and death for them.
When Stalin wins, sure enough he brutally murders Ukrainians. Stalin's crimes against humanity outnumber Hitler's.
The funny thing is that you normally hear this on the extreme right and sometimes the moderate right. Now copied by the extreme left, because they have to defend their Globohomo heroes.
Comments about Ukrainian collaboration are often not very nuanced. Considering the depredations of collectivization, it's certainly more understandable than a Frenchman who just decides to enlist in the Waffen SS, but that does not make it justifiable.
It's also worth stressing that Stalin's worst crimes were in the past in 1941, and that Hitler had some rather unpleasant plans for the USSR, including its starvation and depopulation to an extent worse than Stalin could ever dream of.
What fascinates me is that this shows that Carl Schmitt was right and that it's all just friend-enemy distinction. They hate on Nazis because they want to say that 'the right' in general is bad, but now they defend the Nazis because the Nazis fought against ze Russians, and Russians very very bad!
Gavrilo Princip was an Assassin ancestor of mine, I saw it in the Animus. Also, you won't believe how many Precursor temples there are under Sarajevo. Explains all the fighting in the 90s.
Russian allied Socialists were throwing actual bombs at the time. Antifa was in the streets clashing with the Brownshirts.
The Socialists were aiming for an actual color revolution. Literal Socialist Terrorists were trying to assassinate their political opponents and bring Germany to ruin, so as it could fall into Socialist control.
Stalin's crimes against humanity outnumber Hitler's.
but when IIIIIIIIII say it, suddenly i'm a nazi defender! despite thinking that they're both cringe foreign ideologies that have no place in my country.
I'm pretty sure at this point that any average individual Ukrainian's "collaboration" with the USSR (or Nazis) would be roughly the same as any average individual US citizen's "collaboration" with the US government. "Collaboration" is probably largely dependent on either which propaganda they found more believable or whose gun was pointed at them.
The funny thing is that you normally hear this on the extreme right and sometimes the moderate right. Now copied by the extreme left, because they have to defend their Globohomo heroes.
Comments about Ukrainian collaboration are often not very nuanced. Considering the depredations of collectivization, it's certainly more understandable than a Frenchman who just decides to enlist in the Waffen SS, but that does not make it justifiable.
It's also worth stressing that Stalin's worst crimes were in the past in 1941, and that Hitler had some rather unpleasant plans for the USSR, including its starvation and depopulation to an extent worse than Stalin could ever dream of.
What fascinates me is that this shows that Carl Schmitt was right and that it's all just friend-enemy distinction. They hate on Nazis because they want to say that 'the right' in general is bad, but now they defend the Nazis because the Nazis fought against ze Russians, and Russians very very bad!
No WW1 => no Bolshevik Revolution => no fascists in Italy => no Nazis => no CCP => no Khmer Rouge.
What an absolute cataclysm that was.
gotta go back to before the french revolution
The smart time traveler skips the line of people who want to kill baby Hitler and goes for the baby Robespierre line instead.
Gavrilo Princip was an Assassin ancestor of mine, I saw it in the Animus. Also, you won't believe how many Precursor temples there are under Sarajevo. Explains all the fighting in the 90s.
Russian allied Socialists were throwing actual bombs at the time. Antifa was in the streets clashing with the Brownshirts.
The Socialists were aiming for an actual color revolution. Literal Socialist Terrorists were trying to assassinate their political opponents and bring Germany to ruin, so as it could fall into Socialist control.
Carl Schmitt has always been right about that.
but when IIIIIIIIII say it, suddenly i'm a nazi defender! despite thinking that they're both cringe foreign ideologies that have no place in my country.
I'm pretty sure at this point that any average individual Ukrainian's "collaboration" with the USSR (or Nazis) would be roughly the same as any average individual US citizen's "collaboration" with the US government. "Collaboration" is probably largely dependent on either which propaganda they found more believable or whose gun was pointed at them.