If there was actually Internet freedom anywhere I'd agree with you. But here we are on this website specifically because there is no such thing as Internet freedom. It's just a buzzword they use when they want to do perverted or corrupt bullshit.
Sorry, but that's a weak argument. Because there's censorship out there, we should be alright with even more direct government intrusion into what we can look at online? Nope, hard pass.
I'm saying that if you can't even criticize troons pretty much anywhere, why should the avenues the enemy uses to groom children be legal? The government already gleefully intrudes on whether or not you're allowed to use money, all based on whether or not you're a leftist. A social credit system has already been imposed on us because we refuse to suppress the left when we should.
So by all means, tell me why we should once again never fight back.
And I'm saying it's a bad precedent, and doesn't work in our favor. This gets the government's foot in the door on internet ID laws, and will be turned against us next.
Also, you say that's not the argument you're making, but it seems to be, because then you do it again; say what the leftists are doing, so the right should do things too. Which might be a fine stance but, again, my issue is I don't agree this is a good thing, and I think it will hurt us by its existence. Internet ID laws are bad, even if they scream "think of the children." When you think about it, it's a very leftist argument in that respect; appeals to emotion above practicality or freedom or legality.
So by all means, tell me why we should once again never fight back.
Never said that. I said let's not make it easier for the government to oppress us all. We're already far enough down the cyberpunk dystopia timeline, let's not make it worse.
What exactly is it you think will be "turned on us next"? Do you even realize the extent of the tyranny we find ourselves under?
What I'm saying is that the response to leftist censorship and oppression should not in fact be making porn legal for children, while striking a noble pose and declaring how fair you think you are.
What about that do you object to, precisely? To me it seems like you're volunteering to let them have their own cake and eat yours too.
There is internet freedom. Reddit has their website, and "we" have ours.
The fact that theirs is more popular than this is not their fault.
While it is enjoyable forcing this content on people who don't like it, it's probably not the way the internet is supposed to work. OTOH they force stuff on us, so whatever I guess.
If there was actually Internet freedom anywhere I'd agree with you. But here we are on this website specifically because there is no such thing as Internet freedom. It's just a buzzword they use when they want to do perverted or corrupt bullshit.
Sorry, but that's a weak argument. Because there's censorship out there, we should be alright with even more direct government intrusion into what we can look at online? Nope, hard pass.
That isn't the argument I'm making.
I'm saying that if you can't even criticize troons pretty much anywhere, why should the avenues the enemy uses to groom children be legal? The government already gleefully intrudes on whether or not you're allowed to use money, all based on whether or not you're a leftist. A social credit system has already been imposed on us because we refuse to suppress the left when we should.
So by all means, tell me why we should once again never fight back.
And I'm saying it's a bad precedent, and doesn't work in our favor. This gets the government's foot in the door on internet ID laws, and will be turned against us next.
Also, you say that's not the argument you're making, but it seems to be, because then you do it again; say what the leftists are doing, so the right should do things too. Which might be a fine stance but, again, my issue is I don't agree this is a good thing, and I think it will hurt us by its existence. Internet ID laws are bad, even if they scream "think of the children." When you think about it, it's a very leftist argument in that respect; appeals to emotion above practicality or freedom or legality.
Never said that. I said let's not make it easier for the government to oppress us all. We're already far enough down the cyberpunk dystopia timeline, let's not make it worse.
What exactly is it you think will be "turned on us next"? Do you even realize the extent of the tyranny we find ourselves under?
What I'm saying is that the response to leftist censorship and oppression should not in fact be making porn legal for children, while striking a noble pose and declaring how fair you think you are.
What about that do you object to, precisely? To me it seems like you're volunteering to let them have their own cake and eat yours too.
There is internet freedom. Reddit has their website, and "we" have ours.
The fact that theirs is more popular than this is not their fault.
While it is enjoyable forcing this content on people who don't like it, it's probably not the way the internet is supposed to work. OTOH they force stuff on us, so whatever I guess.