There's a reason all discussion of Hitler's motives ends at "because he hated the joos". Any average person, if a blind test was done, would most likely agree with him on a lot of things.
"Because he hated the jews" is absolutely a critical aspect of why he did what he did (which was murder millions of them and plunge Europe into war). The jews were a bourgeois race, and so their extermination was a categorical imperative. He hated the jews as any Leftist would hate the bourgeois. We can talk about why he hated the jews additionally, but most of the time Leftists and NatSocs need to stop there because otherwise they'd have to admit his Socialism.
"Because he hated the jews" is absolutely a critical aspect of why he did what he did (which was murder millions of them
Any forum with absolute free speech, that doesn't censor this discussion, has had robust debate about this topic, and many people have presented extremely compelling evidence that this isn't what happened, and that it was physically impossible for the Germans to do. This is one of the central ways for how most of were convinced, how we began to reject the lies surrounding WW2, and realizing how thoroughly propagandized our society is.
and many people have presented extremely compelling evidence that this isn't what happened, and that it was physically impossible for the Germans to do.
Total fucking nonsense.
First of all, the Germans managed to kill twenty million Russians, and that was predominantly through regular warfare. Russians exterminated over a hundred thousand Poles in about a year through traditional execution methods. The Khmer Rouge managed to exterminate 20% of their own population in 5 years. The NatSoc atrocities in Greece and Crete demonstrate the capacity for wanton murder and intentional starvation, and that's still not really part of the Holocaust. Those are just other mass killings.
The idea that the Germans simply weren't capable of killing millions of a specific demographic in their own territories (while actively murdering other demographics anyways) is asinine and darkly comical.
Mass executions of jews were more than entirely doable, the unique part of the holocaust was that it was the capital investment of murder as if it were a commodity. A factory of death is not a misnomer, it's not easy to just kill many hundreds of people and dispose of the bodies in a timely manner. The NatSocs mentioned in their own documents that the work of mass executions just through bullets was rather difficult and demoralizing work, especially as time went on. Making it possible for fewer people to kill more in an efficient way was a the goal. One of the benefits of the Sonderkommando system in the extermination camps was that they would be the ones handling most of the bodies, and so would endure the brunt of the psychological damage... then they too would be executed after a few weeks, keeping the demoralization of the NatSoc troops to a minimum. These notes where actually what led to the Milgram experiment on deference to authority.
Again, it is only at this point that we go back to "compelling evidence". The evidence we have is from the bodies, the mass graves, the witnesses, the logistical records, and importantly: the confessions! If they write what they are doing in their own handwriting and admit to it, that's a pretty good indicator they did it. The best evidence from Holocaust Deniers is "hurr durr wooden doors" and "hurr durr it's an Olympic sized swimming pool". Fuck off, we both know this is a lie. Even "Holocaust Skeptics" have to come to the eventual conclusion that "all the records of passengers stop in specific places, and then they never seem to be deported anywhere else". Even David Irving, as much of a liar as he is, admits that Dachau was absolutely an extermination camp. Turns out that a camp that's barely a couple acres can't just store a hundred thousand people in it without overcrowding.
Holocaust Denial is the only "conspiracy theory" that I've ever seen built entirely out of motivated reasoning. All others have an autistic focus on detail that they don't understand or confuse themselves with. Holocaust Denial is about being proud of ignorance publicly, while demanding the atrocities privately. "It didn't happen but it should have"
There's a reason all discussion of Hitler's motives ends at "because he hated the joos". Any average person, if a blind test was done, would most likely agree with him on a lot of things.
"Because he hated the jews" is absolutely a critical aspect of why he did what he did (which was murder millions of them and plunge Europe into war). The jews were a bourgeois race, and so their extermination was a categorical imperative. He hated the jews as any Leftist would hate the bourgeois. We can talk about why he hated the jews additionally, but most of the time Leftists and NatSocs need to stop there because otherwise they'd have to admit his Socialism.
Any forum with absolute free speech, that doesn't censor this discussion, has had robust debate about this topic, and many people have presented extremely compelling evidence that this isn't what happened, and that it was physically impossible for the Germans to do. This is one of the central ways for how most of were convinced, how we began to reject the lies surrounding WW2, and realizing how thoroughly propagandized our society is.
Total fucking nonsense.
First of all, the Germans managed to kill twenty million Russians, and that was predominantly through regular warfare. Russians exterminated over a hundred thousand Poles in about a year through traditional execution methods. The Khmer Rouge managed to exterminate 20% of their own population in 5 years. The NatSoc atrocities in Greece and Crete demonstrate the capacity for wanton murder and intentional starvation, and that's still not really part of the Holocaust. Those are just other mass killings.
The idea that the Germans simply weren't capable of killing millions of a specific demographic in their own territories (while actively murdering other demographics anyways) is asinine and darkly comical.
Mass executions of jews were more than entirely doable, the unique part of the holocaust was that it was the capital investment of murder as if it were a commodity. A factory of death is not a misnomer, it's not easy to just kill many hundreds of people and dispose of the bodies in a timely manner. The NatSocs mentioned in their own documents that the work of mass executions just through bullets was rather difficult and demoralizing work, especially as time went on. Making it possible for fewer people to kill more in an efficient way was a the goal. One of the benefits of the Sonderkommando system in the extermination camps was that they would be the ones handling most of the bodies, and so would endure the brunt of the psychological damage... then they too would be executed after a few weeks, keeping the demoralization of the NatSoc troops to a minimum. These notes where actually what led to the Milgram experiment on deference to authority.
Again, it is only at this point that we go back to "compelling evidence". The evidence we have is from the bodies, the mass graves, the witnesses, the logistical records, and importantly: the confessions! If they write what they are doing in their own handwriting and admit to it, that's a pretty good indicator they did it. The best evidence from Holocaust Deniers is "hurr durr wooden doors" and "hurr durr it's an Olympic sized swimming pool". Fuck off, we both know this is a lie. Even "Holocaust Skeptics" have to come to the eventual conclusion that "all the records of passengers stop in specific places, and then they never seem to be deported anywhere else". Even David Irving, as much of a liar as he is, admits that Dachau was absolutely an extermination camp. Turns out that a camp that's barely a couple acres can't just store a hundred thousand people in it without overcrowding.
Holocaust Denial is the only "conspiracy theory" that I've ever seen built entirely out of motivated reasoning. All others have an autistic focus on detail that they don't understand or confuse themselves with. Holocaust Denial is about being proud of ignorance publicly, while demanding the atrocities privately. "It didn't happen but it should have"
Not even gonna bother reading this drivel anymore.