I certainly won't discount the role of feminism as causing great harm, and I'm not in the camp of people that are saying "men just need to man up" or anything like that. Women's legal and social privileges would be foolish to ignore, and even if you find a good woman who wants to be a housewife, the economic reality is that supporting a family on one income is difficult and will require some definite sacrifices. I wouldn't ever wish to argue with any of that, because I agree with all of it.
The issue I have with you is that you're sitting in a culture that has been dragged way way way to the left over the last several decades, and yet you seem to reflexively point at people trying to shift back to the right as going too far in exactly the same way as the people continuing to sprint left. If you want to say "no, I don't think [porn, etc.] is a problem, I think that can actually stay where it was shifted to, it's just most of everything else that needs to go back right," I'm willing to listen to that, but it doesn't seem like that's really what you're arguing. It seems less like you're putting forward cogent reasons for why it's okay, and more like you're just upset someone is contemplating cutting it off without even understanding their objections.
The fact is as much as right wingers love to bleat on about porn psychologists everywhere haven't actually been able to link it to anything much like with any other media that gets demonised. If anything there's a study that's made the rounds where they actually point out that high access to porn etc. also reduces sexual crime which right wingers never want to address because it destroys their narrative and it's not me just shitposting about this it's a thing.
The issue of people getting too involved with video games and porn is something that I can agree with but again back to the psychology aspect. It's been proven that this really is a catalyst more than anything else rather than an actual root cause. It's like how people who delve way too much into drugs and alcohol are resorting to that as an escape from actual problems they have in their lives. A lot of people recognise that, but right wingers refuse to.
Something which you have sussed out correctly aside from it being mostly wrong is that I come at this from the MRA perspective partially. I simply don't trust the right to fix this because they keep proving themselves utterly useless and incompetent. They hyper focus on porn and yes as you pointed out tell men to 'man up' while giving women protected status all over again and doing nothing to help men.
So yes of course I'm going to point out all these problems the right has even if it leads people especially the people I want to get annoyed with me to get annoyed. Men's mental health is a real issue and I'm fed up of the political factions out there that want to downplay it at every turn because neither side wants to admit what they've done to men as a whole.
You'll note as well how unsympathetic I am towards women having to deal with the troons invading their single gender spaces. That should give you an idea of where I am on the political spectrum when it comes to this so forgive me if I don't exactly trust the right these days when it comes to this sort of thing.
I certainly won't discount the role of feminism as causing great harm, and I'm not in the camp of people that are saying "men just need to man up" or anything like that. Women's legal and social privileges would be foolish to ignore, and even if you find a good woman who wants to be a housewife, the economic reality is that supporting a family on one income is difficult and will require some definite sacrifices. I wouldn't ever wish to argue with any of that, because I agree with all of it.
The issue I have with you is that you're sitting in a culture that has been dragged way way way to the left over the last several decades, and yet you seem to reflexively point at people trying to shift back to the right as going too far in exactly the same way as the people continuing to sprint left. If you want to say "no, I don't think [porn, etc.] is a problem, I think that can actually stay where it was shifted to, it's just most of everything else that needs to go back right," I'm willing to listen to that, but it doesn't seem like that's really what you're arguing. It seems less like you're putting forward cogent reasons for why it's okay, and more like you're just upset someone is contemplating cutting it off without even understanding their objections.
The fact is as much as right wingers love to bleat on about porn psychologists everywhere haven't actually been able to link it to anything much like with any other media that gets demonised. If anything there's a study that's made the rounds where they actually point out that high access to porn etc. also reduces sexual crime which right wingers never want to address because it destroys their narrative and it's not me just shitposting about this it's a thing.
The issue of people getting too involved with video games and porn is something that I can agree with but again back to the psychology aspect. It's been proven that this really is a catalyst more than anything else rather than an actual root cause. It's like how people who delve way too much into drugs and alcohol are resorting to that as an escape from actual problems they have in their lives. A lot of people recognise that, but right wingers refuse to.
Something which you have sussed out correctly aside from it being mostly wrong is that I come at this from the MRA perspective partially. I simply don't trust the right to fix this because they keep proving themselves utterly useless and incompetent. They hyper focus on porn and yes as you pointed out tell men to 'man up' while giving women protected status all over again and doing nothing to help men.
So yes of course I'm going to point out all these problems the right has even if it leads people especially the people I want to get annoyed with me to get annoyed. Men's mental health is a real issue and I'm fed up of the political factions out there that want to downplay it at every turn because neither side wants to admit what they've done to men as a whole.
You'll note as well how unsympathetic I am towards women having to deal with the troons invading their single gender spaces. That should give you an idea of where I am on the political spectrum when it comes to this so forgive me if I don't exactly trust the right these days when it comes to this sort of thing.
Just say “I’m a libertarian retard”.