Ron DeSantis was a sort of neocon when he was in Congress. He supported the Libya intervention (as I unfortunately did), while he opposed the Syria nonsense. He attempted to pressure Obama into sending lethal arms to Ukraine (which Trump later did).
But now, Trump is sticking closer to his anti-neocon roots, refusing to be bullied by fake news CNN into saying that he hopes Ukraine wins. DeSantis made some good statements to Tucker, but then undermined them a bit later on. On foreign policy, it seems that Trump is better.
But both are better than the GOP used to be. Whether you support Trump or DeSantis or neither, anyone who is anti-neocon should be happy that these are the choices.
I mean, that is classic Trump braggadocio. You know his heart is in the right place. RDS had some good things to say but then unfortunately backtracked a bit because Liz Cheney wasn't happy.
Trump is no 4D chess master, but his political instincts are pretty good.
I think he doesn't just think that people think war is bad, but that he thinks war is bad. And war is popular, not unpopular. That's one of the reasons American presidents almost invaribly start wars.
Trump is a narcissist and constantly makes bombastic statements. Automatically assigning the best intent to them is an act of mind reading that I will not engage in.
RDS's policy on Ukraine was not backtracked to please Liz Cheney. That is an absurd statement. He basically clarified his verbiage on whether the conflict was a border skirmish. He merely clarified that he thinks Russia was in the wrong for invading Ukraine in his second statement.
People on our forum have certain views about the Ukraine conflict that the larger primary electorate which has many boomer cons don't share.
RDS was likely trying to clarify his stance for that reason.
Trump is a narcissist and constantly makes bombastic statements.
Yes.
Automatically assigning the best intent to them is an act of mind reading that I will not engage in.
Oh, you should never assign good intent to any politician. They are all bad. Still, I know that Trump is anti-neocon, while I think DeSantis is adjusting himself to being one. It's good that he is, don't get me wrong, but that can easily change when he is in office (while Trump can get rolled by his men like he was in his first term).
RDS's policy on Ukraine was not backtracked to please Liz Cheney. That is an absurd statement
It was half a joke. He backtracked a bit in response to criticism from the likes of Lindsey Graham. The problem is not just the substance, but that he looked weak in appearing to backtrack in response to criticism. What I like about him is that he punches anyone who attacks him, rather than surrendering.
He merely clarified that he thinks Russia was in the wrong for invading Ukraine in his second statement.
He also made childish statements like "Russia is a gas station", but to his credit, he made those as arguments for why Russia should not be regarded as a threat.
People on our forum have certain views about the Ukraine conflict that the larger primary electorate which has many boomer cons don't share.
Correct. But I think that he struck the exact right cord in his first statement. And people may have opinions, but foreign policy generally ranks very low on the list of priorities, so those of you who have opinions that are outside the mainstream of the blob should do your absolute best to voice your opinions, as I know you do.
Almost. Trump has a better policy on foreign policy than DS.
Feel free to elaborate.
Ron DeSantis was a sort of neocon when he was in Congress. He supported the Libya intervention (as I unfortunately did), while he opposed the Syria nonsense. He attempted to pressure Obama into sending lethal arms to Ukraine (which Trump later did).
But now, Trump is sticking closer to his anti-neocon roots, refusing to be bullied by fake news CNN into saying that he hopes Ukraine wins. DeSantis made some good statements to Tucker, but then undermined them a bit later on. On foreign policy, it seems that Trump is better.
But both are better than the GOP used to be. Whether you support Trump or DeSantis or neither, anyone who is anti-neocon should be happy that these are the choices.
Okay, like what?
Come on man, you know you have to provide sources for this shit.
You're really going to play the "SOURCE?" game when it's something that's widely known?
Trump's policy on Ukraine is a meme.
He is claiming he will end the war in 24 hours and won't elaborate on anything.
The man couldn't finish the wall in 4 years but he is going to end this war in less than a day?
Press X to doubt.
I mean, that is classic Trump braggadocio. You know his heart is in the right place. RDS had some good things to say but then unfortunately backtracked a bit because Liz Cheney wasn't happy.
Every high stakes Trump foreign policy move was a smashing success. I believe him.
Trump is no 4D chess master, but his political instincts are pretty good.
I think he doesn't just think that people think war is bad, but that he thinks war is bad. And war is popular, not unpopular. That's one of the reasons American presidents almost invaribly start wars.
Trump is a narcissist and constantly makes bombastic statements. Automatically assigning the best intent to them is an act of mind reading that I will not engage in.
RDS's policy on Ukraine was not backtracked to please Liz Cheney. That is an absurd statement. He basically clarified his verbiage on whether the conflict was a border skirmish. He merely clarified that he thinks Russia was in the wrong for invading Ukraine in his second statement.
People on our forum have certain views about the Ukraine conflict that the larger primary electorate which has many boomer cons don't share.
RDS was likely trying to clarify his stance for that reason.
Yes.
Oh, you should never assign good intent to any politician. They are all bad. Still, I know that Trump is anti-neocon, while I think DeSantis is adjusting himself to being one. It's good that he is, don't get me wrong, but that can easily change when he is in office (while Trump can get rolled by his men like he was in his first term).
It was half a joke. He backtracked a bit in response to criticism from the likes of Lindsey Graham. The problem is not just the substance, but that he looked weak in appearing to backtrack in response to criticism. What I like about him is that he punches anyone who attacks him, rather than surrendering.
He also made childish statements like "Russia is a gas station", but to his credit, he made those as arguments for why Russia should not be regarded as a threat.
Correct. But I think that he struck the exact right cord in his first statement. And people may have opinions, but foreign policy generally ranks very low on the list of priorities, so those of you who have opinions that are outside the mainstream of the blob should do your absolute best to voice your opinions, as I know you do.
Ur a meme
If you actually believe that Trump can magically end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hours, then you actually ride the short bus.