Reminder on why the left wins and conservatives are born and bred to lose
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Eh, semantics I guess. I don't see any need to rebrand persuasion as subversion and what I have always understood as subversion only starts where your scale hits deception. Specifically the kind of deception where you pretend to agree with someone with the intent to undermine their beliefs when they let their guard down.