Anti depressants are curse upon the West, it removed asylums (while many were ineffective and in a lot of cases, extremely cruel) that sequestered the mentally ill from society in favour of increasing dependency on drugs.
I mildly suffered a bit from depression thanks to circumstances but it was improved by change of environment and later just working out to physically improve myself. This 'take this pill to sort out your problems' is a form of conditioning to rely on the medical industry without question for all of your issues.
With that level of conditioning, it makes it easier for them to give you an untested vaccine to a not so serious virus...
over 50% of teenage girls and women 40+ are on strong anti-depressants. it subsides when they chase chad and ride the carousel, but as soon as they make it out to the real world and they realize that no, they cannot have it all, back on the anti-depressants they go. it's insane how common it is now.
I've heard that can be a common symptom when first trying out SSRI's in general. I read about this only a few months ago, but for the life of me I can't remember what the supposed cause was.
But there's no guarantee that's the issue, because there's still a half dozen other potential causes. IE, shoddy generics manufactured in India absolutely can make a medication's effects 10x worse across the board. Could also be an issue with that medication's binding profile just not balancing out with your own neurochemistry.
Regardless, I expect you're probably aiming to tapter off of it and ditch it at this point if you've recognized the depression you were experiencing was primarily due to real world circumstances and not an inherent issue that needed tweaking. Just be sure to do it gradually, maybe even getting yourself a solid jewelry-tier scale if you wanted to measure your dosage decreases more accurately. (Ironically, first search result on scales gave the exact same scenario as an example.)
You might be able to try and alleviate some of the symptoms with some mild but effective supplements. Omega 3's/Fish oil for example. Probly best to avoid heavier supplements like 5-HTP though, since those kinds can interact with SSRI's, so may have an even screwier interaction when you're trying to go off of an SSRI.
If you find the depression related symptoms persist, in spite of successfully tapering off of the SSRI and trying other non-medication related treatment options, you could maybe consider a non-SSRI like Wellbutrion/Bupropion. It's pretty much the only non-stimulant based medication I can think of that's used for depression that tends not to produce numbing/sedating-like effects. Might cause other, less desirable effects however. It varies.
I can see how someone with the mistaken impression that “depression is anger turned inward” could believe that these drugs “worked”, because, for me, they’ve honestly left me too weak to truly express my anger as I probably normally would…
And as someone who can get really angry (generally justified, but when I rage, I really rage), that is… Interesting.
But it doesn’t help the sadness. It doesn’t help any of the other shit. Because it’s not chemicals causing those things - it’s life being fucked. And not seeing an end to life being fucked…
It’s honestly like a mild version of “chemical castration”, in a loose sense. I hate to imagine what actual HRT feels like.
No wonder they end up so goddamn aggressive (in addition to their existing problems, which “transitioning” obviously does not solve), lol…
But it doesn’t help the sadness. It doesn’t help any of the other shit. Because it’s not chemicals causing those things - it’s life being fucked. And not seeing an end to life being fucked…
Depression isn't sadness, or anger.
Depression is the loss of the will to live.
It's probably what I would consider the most fundamental reasons why leftists become the way they are. After all, most of them have it. They don't have the will inside of themselves to solve their own problems and push forward. Instead, they seek an external motivator, or savior, and that makes them vulnerable to manipulation, whether it be through drugs, propaganda, peer pressure, etc.
Interestingly enough, what "cured" mine, was simply not using Facebook anymore. Sure, it comes back every once in a while, but it's not looming over my head all the time like it was in college. The darkest period in my life was probably the beginning of junior year, when I had moved 1100 miles away from my family, and knew basically nobody. I was in a city, surrounded by tens of thousands, and yet I never felt more alone. It's one of the few times in my entire life I have lost it and broke down sobbing.
I had simple conversations with the hostess at the local chinese joint, the staff at a local pizza place, and the girl behind the counter at Jersey Mikes (guess how I gained 100lbs in a year and a half, which I am to this day struggling to get rid of). If it weren't for that, or driving for miles down to MCO at night listening to synthwave (specifically "Dr Elizabeth Darling" from the Farcry 3 Blood Dragon OST) taking the looooong way home, I can honestly say I might have been a statistic instead of sitting here typing this.
I wish I could say for certain that it gets better. Back then I was financially and physically in a significantly more advantageous position than I am now. But then again, I cannot know the future, and if I could, there wouldn't be a point.
I'm not sure if there's an end to life being fucked, but I'd like to be there if there is one. That's why I won't end it.
It’s interesting - one supposed impact of these drugs on men is loss of libido and/or erectile dysfunction…
I haven’t had these problems (lol), but have been left physically… Weakened, I guess? I feel frailer, and generally just… Not very good…
Dunno if I feel any more “compliant” or “normal”, but if the idea is to make us all into docile, “productive” zombies, I can kind of see why they might be pushed so much…
Though I’ve experienced zero benefits, personally, so I guess it hasn’t “worked” on me, in that sense.
Seems that women have a much higher rate of “success” on these drugs than men, which… Is perhaps unsurprising, considering all of this.
I was prescribed them years ago, took one pill and never ever again; I felt like dogshit afterwards. For me, exercise, sunlight, better diet and cutting out negative influences worked way better as a cure for depression.
My favourite of the listed potential side-effects was, hilariously, 'suicidal thoughts'. Just what you need in an anti-depressant.
Basically, I don’t think it necessarily changes that one way or the other (maybe it does for some people), but I’m told that, in some cases, the drugs give people the “motivation” they need to just go through with it…
For me, though, those thoughts are always there, regardless of whether I’m drugged up or not, so… Eh.
As you say, it’s about improving life circumstances. That’s the only way to get better.
I still feel like dogshit pretty much every day I take one of the pills, lol.
Supposedly it goes away, but it hasn’t for me, at least, as yet…
I wouldn't overthink it like that. The development of SSRI's were essentially a half-lucky diceroll that managed to, largely, be a surprisingly effective path to treating multiple psychiatric symptoms (anxiety, OCD, depression, anger and behavioral issues, etc). And they still don't "exactly" get how the second phase of therapeutic action actually works, because they can't easily trace or measure the effects past the first phase.
Back to what you're experiencing, probably somnolence? Or something in that general area of "unexcitable blahness" and feeling numb. There's a few possibilities, as it pertains to you: SSRI's might not be the optimal direction, the specific dosage might not be optimal, the effects from the specific manufacturer may not be optimal (see my other comment for further info), the drug itself (as opposed to another SSRI) may not be optimal. You "may" also find that you can reduce the side effects a bit if you take it at night instead of during the day.
I could "probably" help narrow things down on a few of these items, but it's still a bit of a crapshoot of trial and error. Which believe me, I have ranted to myself about quite a lot since having more recent issues. And for years I've been irritated how doctors don't simply utilize or provide more reliable diagnostic tools simply because it's not "convenient" (And there are tools that they basically use when they formulate the drugs. But the medical assumption has been that there'd be "little benefit" to using these to fine-tune treatment regiments)
Also, read my big ol' comment that I just barely posted for more info.
Anti depressants are curse upon the West, it removed asylums (while many were ineffective and in a lot of cases, extremely cruel) that sequestered the mentally ill from society in favour of increasing dependency on drugs.
I mildly suffered a bit from depression thanks to circumstances but it was improved by change of environment and later just working out to physically improve myself. This 'take this pill to sort out your problems' is a form of conditioning to rely on the medical industry without question for all of your issues.
With that level of conditioning, it makes it easier for them to give you an untested vaccine to a not so serious virus...
Antidepressants are just a bandaid to try (and fail to) cover up the Progressive (aka Rainbow-Marxist) world's spiritual malaise.
#facts
over 50% of teenage girls and women 40+ are on strong anti-depressants. it subsides when they chase chad and ride the carousel, but as soon as they make it out to the real world and they realize that no, they cannot have it all, back on the anti-depressants they go. it's insane how common it is now.
I think in the case of anxiety it's a bit more than a bandaid. But it was definitely pushed way too hard as a catch-all treatment for too many issues.
Made mine much worse. But, individuals vary, and all that…
I've heard that can be a common symptom when first trying out SSRI's in general. I read about this only a few months ago, but for the life of me I can't remember what the supposed cause was.
But there's no guarantee that's the issue, because there's still a half dozen other potential causes. IE, shoddy generics manufactured in India absolutely can make a medication's effects 10x worse across the board. Could also be an issue with that medication's binding profile just not balancing out with your own neurochemistry.
Regardless, I expect you're probably aiming to tapter off of it and ditch it at this point if you've recognized the depression you were experiencing was primarily due to real world circumstances and not an inherent issue that needed tweaking. Just be sure to do it gradually, maybe even getting yourself a solid jewelry-tier scale if you wanted to measure your dosage decreases more accurately. (Ironically, first search result on scales gave the exact same scenario as an example.)
You might be able to try and alleviate some of the symptoms with some mild but effective supplements. Omega 3's/Fish oil for example. Probly best to avoid heavier supplements like 5-HTP though, since those kinds can interact with SSRI's, so may have an even screwier interaction when you're trying to go off of an SSRI.
If you find the depression related symptoms persist, in spite of successfully tapering off of the SSRI and trying other non-medication related treatment options, you could maybe consider a non-SSRI like Wellbutrion/Bupropion. It's pretty much the only non-stimulant based medication I can think of that's used for depression that tends not to produce numbing/sedating-like effects. Might cause other, less desirable effects however. It varies.
I can see how someone with the mistaken impression that “depression is anger turned inward” could believe that these drugs “worked”, because, for me, they’ve honestly left me too weak to truly express my anger as I probably normally would…
And as someone who can get really angry (generally justified, but when I rage, I really rage), that is… Interesting.
But it doesn’t help the sadness. It doesn’t help any of the other shit. Because it’s not chemicals causing those things - it’s life being fucked. And not seeing an end to life being fucked…
It’s honestly like a mild version of “chemical castration”, in a loose sense. I hate to imagine what actual HRT feels like.
No wonder they end up so goddamn aggressive (in addition to their existing problems, which “transitioning” obviously does not solve), lol…
Depression isn't sadness, or anger.
Depression is the loss of the will to live.
It's probably what I would consider the most fundamental reasons why leftists become the way they are. After all, most of them have it. They don't have the will inside of themselves to solve their own problems and push forward. Instead, they seek an external motivator, or savior, and that makes them vulnerable to manipulation, whether it be through drugs, propaganda, peer pressure, etc.
Interestingly enough, what "cured" mine, was simply not using Facebook anymore. Sure, it comes back every once in a while, but it's not looming over my head all the time like it was in college. The darkest period in my life was probably the beginning of junior year, when I had moved 1100 miles away from my family, and knew basically nobody. I was in a city, surrounded by tens of thousands, and yet I never felt more alone. It's one of the few times in my entire life I have lost it and broke down sobbing.
I had simple conversations with the hostess at the local chinese joint, the staff at a local pizza place, and the girl behind the counter at Jersey Mikes (guess how I gained 100lbs in a year and a half, which I am to this day struggling to get rid of). If it weren't for that, or driving for miles down to MCO at night listening to synthwave (specifically "Dr Elizabeth Darling" from the Farcry 3 Blood Dragon OST) taking the looooong way home, I can honestly say I might have been a statistic instead of sitting here typing this.
I wish I could say for certain that it gets better. Back then I was financially and physically in a significantly more advantageous position than I am now. But then again, I cannot know the future, and if I could, there wouldn't be a point.
I'm not sure if there's an end to life being fucked, but I'd like to be there if there is one. That's why I won't end it.
It’s interesting - one supposed impact of these drugs on men is loss of libido and/or erectile dysfunction…
I haven’t had these problems (lol), but have been left physically… Weakened, I guess? I feel frailer, and generally just… Not very good…
Dunno if I feel any more “compliant” or “normal”, but if the idea is to make us all into docile, “productive” zombies, I can kind of see why they might be pushed so much…
Though I’ve experienced zero benefits, personally, so I guess it hasn’t “worked” on me, in that sense.
Seems that women have a much higher rate of “success” on these drugs than men, which… Is perhaps unsurprising, considering all of this.
I was prescribed them years ago, took one pill and never ever again; I felt like dogshit afterwards. For me, exercise, sunlight, better diet and cutting out negative influences worked way better as a cure for depression.
My favourite of the listed potential side-effects was, hilariously, 'suicidal thoughts'. Just what you need in an anti-depressant.
Yeah, the suicidal thoughts thing is… Odd.
Basically, I don’t think it necessarily changes that one way or the other (maybe it does for some people), but I’m told that, in some cases, the drugs give people the “motivation” they need to just go through with it…
For me, though, those thoughts are always there, regardless of whether I’m drugged up or not, so… Eh.
As you say, it’s about improving life circumstances. That’s the only way to get better.
I still feel like dogshit pretty much every day I take one of the pills, lol.
Supposedly it goes away, but it hasn’t for me, at least, as yet…
I wouldn't overthink it like that. The development of SSRI's were essentially a half-lucky diceroll that managed to, largely, be a surprisingly effective path to treating multiple psychiatric symptoms (anxiety, OCD, depression, anger and behavioral issues, etc). And they still don't "exactly" get how the second phase of therapeutic action actually works, because they can't easily trace or measure the effects past the first phase.
Back to what you're experiencing, probably somnolence? Or something in that general area of "unexcitable blahness" and feeling numb. There's a few possibilities, as it pertains to you: SSRI's might not be the optimal direction, the specific dosage might not be optimal, the effects from the specific manufacturer may not be optimal (see my other comment for further info), the drug itself (as opposed to another SSRI) may not be optimal. You "may" also find that you can reduce the side effects a bit if you take it at night instead of during the day.
I could "probably" help narrow things down on a few of these items, but it's still a bit of a crapshoot of trial and error. Which believe me, I have ranted to myself about quite a lot since having more recent issues. And for years I've been irritated how doctors don't simply utilize or provide more reliable diagnostic tools simply because it's not "convenient" (And there are tools that they basically use when they formulate the drugs. But the medical assumption has been that there'd be "little benefit" to using these to fine-tune treatment regiments)
Also, read my big ol' comment that I just barely posted for more info.