Spoken like someone representing the stereotypes of that movement. For my counter-argument, I'd like to quickly bring up the idea of everything in some way devolving into capitalism. The best ideas will always draw the most success regardless of interference by other parties, and the best traits will always be the most sought after among people regardless of what stuff like twitter/facebook push.
With my experiences with the few people I've met that frequent mgtow, they seem to propose a lot of problems with zero solutions to said ones, kinda like leftists/the main patriots site except replace black/white/trans people with women. Economy tanking? Must be a woman's fault. Life doesn't feel rewarding despite doing everything perfectly? Must be a woman's fault. It's extremely lazy thinking and doesn't really accomplish anything, instead just pushing forth excuse after excuse when they should be looking into themselves for those solutions. Maybe you could afford to buy a car if you weren't spending $5k a year on video games and plastic action figures. Maybe you could afford rent/food if you weren't staying out until 3am every friday spending $600 on drinks.
I'd also say the ties between them and feminism are more similar than people want to admit. I remember a while back, think it was 2014/15, when a bunch of local feminists at my university decided to go on a sex strike. They'd walk up to you as you went to class and would harass constantly about not putting out until YOU changed or how they didn't have the same rights. It lasted a total of 3 weeks before many of them realized that their message was falling on deaf ears and men didn't want to be that "perfect guy" for them while they themselves were far from it. I can see this mgtow movement being an eerie parallel of it, only with the men pushing for the other side to be perfect to them and not offering some sort of middle-ground.
Then again from my interactions with the people from that community, I don't think they really want to compromise with women and instead just want to shift the blame of everything onto them
Spoken like someone representing the stereotypes of that movement. For my counter-argument, I'd like to quickly bring up the idea of everything in some way devolving into capitalism. The best ideas will always draw the most success regardless of interference by other parties, and the best traits will always be the most sought after among people regardless of what stuff like twitter/facebook push.
With my experiences with the few people I've met that frequent mgtow, they seem to propose a lot of problems with zero solutions to said ones, kinda like leftists/the main patriots site except replace black/white/trans people with women. Economy tanking? Must be a woman's fault. Life doesn't feel rewarding despite doing everything perfectly? Must be a woman's fault. It's extremely lazy thinking and doesn't really accomplish anything, instead just pushing forth excuse after excuse when they should be looking into themselves for those solutions. Maybe you could afford to buy a car if you weren't spending $5k a year on video games and plastic action figures. Maybe you could afford rent/food if you weren't staying out until 3am every friday spending $600 on drinks.
I'd also say the ties between them and feminism are more similar than people want to admit. I remember a while back, think it was 2014/15, when a bunch of local feminists at my university decided to go on a sex strike. They'd walk up to you as you went to class and would harass constantly about not putting out until YOU changed or how they didn't have the same rights. It lasted a total of 3 weeks before many of them realized that their message was falling on deaf ears and men didn't want to be that "perfect guy" for them while they themselves were far from it. I can see this mgtow movement being an eerie parallel of it, only with the men pushing for the other side to be perfect to them and not offering some sort of middle-ground.
Then again from my interactions with the people from that community, I don't think they really want to compromise with women and instead just want to shift the blame of everything onto them