As someone who is pro-life, I think signing this bill was the morally right thing to do.
As someone who really wants to win 2024, I will be honest and say a 6 week abortion ban bill will hurt him in the general election. His path to victory has to be keeping all of 2020 Trump won states + winning AZ, GA and WI. I think passing this bill sadly puts MI and PA out of reach for him.
MI and PA sadly consist of a lot of baby killing degenerates as seen by the 2022 midterm elections where Democrats Whitmer and Shapiro won their respective governor races by double digit margins when running against hardcore pro lifers Mastriano and Dixon.
If you have to compromise to win, won't you be compromised in office? Perhaps this is better, even if he loses. Maybe state-level is the way to fix things for the sane.
And this is going to kill any future he has as a presidential candidate.
6 weeks is within the time of 'am I pregnant' and 'wait, did I miss it this month?' because a lot of women have irregular periods for different reasons.
The bill doesn't kill his future as abortion bans are only seen pretty unfavorably in ONE of the states he needs to win. It is just Wisconsin which got tougher.
For AZ and GA, being hardcore pro-life is not really a big detriment.
Remember Trump is also responsible for overturning Roe v Wade as it only happened thanks to the three pro-life judges he appointed.
Regardless of whether Trump or RDS wins the primary, either one will be getting hit really hard as being an extremist on abortion.
The difference is that Trump has additional baggage with J6, "stop the steal" and his negative temperament.
The electability advantage for DeSantis still remains.
AZ was decided by one city. One city alone crushed the rest of the state. GA has several of those. This abortion bill is going to rile more than you think. More babies are being born, but that also means unwanted pregnancies, birth defects, high risk pregnancies, miscarriages, and other things where abortion is called into play are going up. Yes, the majority of abortions are from useless whores, but women don't vote based upon rationality and facts.
My response was not DeSantis v. Trump, it was DeSantis vs Cup of Water (D). Everyone knows people will vote for Trump if he wins the nomination, no matter his stance on abortion. DeSantis doesn't have that base, he has to win on the issues.
I respectfully disagree with this take. Trump's baggage of J6 and his temperament hurts him with independents in even GA and AZ.
Ron's biggest problem will be WI.
Brian Kemp beat Stacy Abrams in GA handily even after pushing a 6 week heartbeat bill.
GA is also literally geographically adjacent to Florida.
I am honestly not too worried for DeSantis' prospects in GA since only one statewide candidate in 2022 lost GA and that was shitty Herschel Walker.
Kimberly Yee and Tom Horne both won statewide races in AZ despite both openly professing support for pro-life values. The rest of the statewide ticket was abrasive Kari Lake, unhinged Mark Finchem, awkward Blake Masters and Abe Hamadeh who lost barely. I really feel bad for Hamadeh as he was so close to winning and he is a good guy. I have much less sympathy for Kari Lake and Finchem who continue to grift and rave like lunatics. Masters should have run for a house seat since he was too inexperienced to win a statewide race.
Arizona is not unwinnable for Ron.
Winning AZ will be a bit harder than GA but still very doable.
Wisconsin is the only real tough state for him.
Rust belt voters are secular blue collar voters who somehow deeply value abortion.
I personally despise rust belt voters for having the dumbest set of preferences. They are leftish on Social Security/Medicare, don't care too much about gun rights but they still love abortion. These people massively irk me.
The truth remains that any voter who cares about "muh abortion" is never voting for any one of our candidates.
If it's "Her body, her choice" as pro-abortion dingbats like to say, then does it not follow that it should also be her responsibility as well? Even without abortion, adoption is an option and many places allow legal abandonment too. Men are just stuck with it and it doesn't even have to actually be his child. She can just claim that it's his and then it's on him to dispute it.
As someone who is pro-life, I think signing this bill was the morally right thing to do.
As someone who really wants to win 2024, I will be honest and say a 6 week abortion ban bill will hurt him in the general election. His path to victory has to be keeping all of 2020 Trump won states + winning AZ, GA and WI. I think passing this bill sadly puts MI and PA out of reach for him.
MI and PA sadly consist of a lot of baby killing degenerates as seen by the 2022 midterm elections where Democrats Whitmer and Shapiro won their respective governor races by double digit margins when running against hardcore pro lifers Mastriano and Dixon.
There's a lotta states determined by a few blue cities. This year is going to be big on that due to Boat v. Crossing Stream.
If you have to compromise to win, won't you be compromised in office? Perhaps this is better, even if he loses. Maybe state-level is the way to fix things for the sane.
Now ban it completely.
And this is going to kill any future he has as a presidential candidate.
6 weeks is within the time of 'am I pregnant' and 'wait, did I miss it this month?' because a lot of women have irregular periods for different reasons.
Political expedience > morality is exactly how we're in such a shit situation right now.
The bill doesn't kill his future as abortion bans are only seen pretty unfavorably in ONE of the states he needs to win. It is just Wisconsin which got tougher.
For AZ and GA, being hardcore pro-life is not really a big detriment.
Remember Trump is also responsible for overturning Roe v Wade as it only happened thanks to the three pro-life judges he appointed.
Regardless of whether Trump or RDS wins the primary, either one will be getting hit really hard as being an extremist on abortion.
The difference is that Trump has additional baggage with J6, "stop the steal" and his negative temperament.
The electability advantage for DeSantis still remains.
AZ was decided by one city. One city alone crushed the rest of the state. GA has several of those. This abortion bill is going to rile more than you think. More babies are being born, but that also means unwanted pregnancies, birth defects, high risk pregnancies, miscarriages, and other things where abortion is called into play are going up. Yes, the majority of abortions are from useless whores, but women don't vote based upon rationality and facts.
My response was not DeSantis v. Trump, it was DeSantis vs Cup of Water (D). Everyone knows people will vote for Trump if he wins the nomination, no matter his stance on abortion. DeSantis doesn't have that base, he has to win on the issues.
I respectfully disagree with this take. Trump's baggage of J6 and his temperament hurts him with independents in even GA and AZ.
Ron's biggest problem will be WI.
Brian Kemp beat Stacy Abrams in GA handily even after pushing a 6 week heartbeat bill.
GA is also literally geographically adjacent to Florida.
I am honestly not too worried for DeSantis' prospects in GA since only one statewide candidate in 2022 lost GA and that was shitty Herschel Walker.
Kimberly Yee and Tom Horne both won statewide races in AZ despite both openly professing support for pro-life values. The rest of the statewide ticket was abrasive Kari Lake, unhinged Mark Finchem, awkward Blake Masters and Abe Hamadeh who lost barely. I really feel bad for Hamadeh as he was so close to winning and he is a good guy. I have much less sympathy for Kari Lake and Finchem who continue to grift and rave like lunatics. Masters should have run for a house seat since he was too inexperienced to win a statewide race.
Arizona is not unwinnable for Ron.
Winning AZ will be a bit harder than GA but still very doable.
Wisconsin is the only real tough state for him.
Rust belt voters are secular blue collar voters who somehow deeply value abortion.
I personally despise rust belt voters for having the dumbest set of preferences. They are leftish on Social Security/Medicare, don't care too much about gun rights but they still love abortion. These people massively irk me.
The truth remains that any voter who cares about "muh abortion" is never voting for any one of our candidates.
We will see what happens in 2024.
Letting fathers see their own kids was unconstitutional, but forcing men to be fathers financially isn't.
Such a hypocrite.
If it's "Her body, her choice" as pro-abortion dingbats like to say, then does it not follow that it should also be her responsibility as well? Even without abortion, adoption is an option and many places allow legal abandonment too. Men are just stuck with it and it doesn't even have to actually be his child. She can just claim that it's his and then it's on him to dispute it.
Maybe women should be held accountable for trapping naive men with a kid.