You are getting a little too worked up. It seems this is a bit of a tense topic for you. Never did I profess myself to be some big Mishima stan, and never once did I ever speak ill of, compare him to, or even mention General Kuribayashi (who I think is very admirable as well).
All I expressed is he "deserves admiration" for "taking a stand," and that the world would in general be a better place if more people took up the general attitude of wanting to maintain one's culture and protect it from external threats. I even qualified my statement, even before all of your sperging, that "this doesn't mean there aren't whack parts about his philosophy." Somehow this made me his biggest fan?
Yet you still can't help but ree about banzai charges and his friends who died with him (of their own volition). I don't subscribe to the typical leftist all or nothing mentality of judging people. Literary contributions aside, he had many views that were based as fuck and some that are pants on head retarded. I am fully capable of respecting the former without it meaning I endorse the latter. I am perfectly capable of respecting and admiring both Mishima and Kuribayashi despite their ideas often being at odds, and there is no hypocrisy or contradiction born of speaking of both of them in a positive light.
People are fully capable of doing their own research and picking and choosing the ideas and actions they agree and disagree with, so I feel no misgivings about speaking positively about Mishima if the situation warrants it. No need to get so worked up and emotional about it. It is no different than me being able to point to plenty of things I like in Uncle Ted's writings while also being able to acknowledge that he did and believed some fucked up things. This doesn't mean I "believe him so strongly" or "support him" which are the grand conclusions you somehow drew from my couple statements of vague praise of Mishima.
I'm not sure you know what that word means. Take issue with his ideas all you want, but it would be very difficult to argue that he was not genuine, and that pretty much absolves someone of being a grifter. Not to mention the way he went out. Totally typical grifter behavior....
Kuribayashi actually deserves admiration, he was essentially the complete opposite of Mishima in literally every way, but I've seen nobody talk about him in all this Mishima bullshit trends as of late.
This is because General Kuribayashi, at least in the West, is almost only ever thought of in the context of the war. Naturally, he is quite laudable and would deserve to be discussed more, but Mishima's activites spanned more fields and a much longer period of time. It's no surprise he is talked about more, and discussion on Mishima is not an inherent diss to Kuribayashi. That being said, I rarely, if ever see westerners talking about Mishima either, so I seem to have completely missed this so-called Mishima trend.
You have not pointed to a single thing Mishima actually did that was positive, all you did was state that he had a political position that you agreed with, without considering the context for his own belief system.
I'm not sure how to even process this statement. You could say similar things for someone like Thomas Sowell. People like him do things both through their literature and through being intelligent, prolific people that have their statements and ideas enter the public consciousness and stand the test of time.
Apparently complaining about pointless and evil loss of life means nothing, its fine if you lose the war but say "globalism bad".
Me scoffing at you bringing up banzai charges has nothing to do with that and everything to do with the fact that it wasn't an uncommon opinion for men his age in Japan. Absolutely no one that likes or respects Mishima does so because they are under the impression that he is some brilliant military strategist. Hurr durr the Founding Fathers didn't like black people. Fuck them and everything they did, right?
And yes, understanding and spreading the word about the evils of globalism is absolutely a big plus. I'll ignore the part where you erect a blatantly reductive strawman there.
You say I'm sperging but I can see the downvote next to my post
I'm not sure you know what that word means. Downvotes != sperging. Also, note how I did not downvote your first posts, despite them being in direct opposition with me. I downvoted when you started making all these grand extrapolations from my words and erecting blatantly reductive strawmen. I downvoted when it became clear you getting emotional about the topic was causing you to fill in the blanks in a retarded manner.
Human life apparently means nothing to a guy on the internet with an admiration boner for someone who happens to agree with one of his political viewpoints.
Strawman. At least feel some shame if you are going to be that blatant.
You still conveniently avoid discussing his actual actions, and you actively dismiss his friends' pointless suicides as "of their own volition".
Because they objectively were of their own volition. That says nothing on whether or not I think it was the right choice, but this is not complicated logic to grasp. I'm confident you can do it.
hopefully you find better people to follow
realize how little it means to agree with someone on a single political issue
This is why I started downvoting your comments. I do not "follow" him, whatever that even fucking means, and my posts so far should have made that more than evident by now. The dude rarely comes up in western discourse, so his name rarely even crosses my mind unless I'm cleaning my bookshelf.
That being said, the notion that being anti-globalist is the sole singular thing I've ever agreed with the dude on is also retarded, and not something I ever said or implied in any of my comments. I'll go find better people to "follow" (?) if you go work on your reading comprehension, because going back and forth like this is a waste of time for both of us at this rate.
You are getting a little too worked up. It seems this is a bit of a tense topic for you. Never did I profess myself to be some big Mishima stan, and never once did I ever speak ill of, compare him to, or even mention General Kuribayashi (who I think is very admirable as well).
All I expressed is he "deserves admiration" for "taking a stand," and that the world would in general be a better place if more people took up the general attitude of wanting to maintain one's culture and protect it from external threats. I even qualified my statement, even before all of your sperging, that "this doesn't mean there aren't whack parts about his philosophy." Somehow this made me his biggest fan?
Yet you still can't help but ree about banzai charges and his friends who died with him (of their own volition). I don't subscribe to the typical leftist all or nothing mentality of judging people. Literary contributions aside, he had many views that were based as fuck and some that are pants on head retarded. I am fully capable of respecting the former without it meaning I endorse the latter. I am perfectly capable of respecting and admiring both Mishima and Kuribayashi despite their ideas often being at odds, and there is no hypocrisy or contradiction born of speaking of both of them in a positive light.
People are fully capable of doing their own research and picking and choosing the ideas and actions they agree and disagree with, so I feel no misgivings about speaking positively about Mishima if the situation warrants it. No need to get so worked up and emotional about it. It is no different than me being able to point to plenty of things I like in Uncle Ted's writings while also being able to acknowledge that he did and believed some fucked up things. This doesn't mean I "believe him so strongly" or "support him" which are the grand conclusions you somehow drew from my couple statements of vague praise of Mishima.
I'm not sure you know what that word means. Take issue with his ideas all you want, but it would be very difficult to argue that he was not genuine, and that pretty much absolves someone of being a grifter. Not to mention the way he went out. Totally typical grifter behavior....
This is because General Kuribayashi, at least in the West, is almost only ever thought of in the context of the war. Naturally, he is quite laudable and would deserve to be discussed more, but Mishima's activites spanned more fields and a much longer period of time. It's no surprise he is talked about more, and discussion on Mishima is not an inherent diss to Kuribayashi. That being said, I rarely, if ever see westerners talking about Mishima either, so I seem to have completely missed this so-called Mishima trend.
I'm not sure how to even process this statement. You could say similar things for someone like Thomas Sowell. People like him do things both through their literature and through being intelligent, prolific people that have their statements and ideas enter the public consciousness and stand the test of time.
Me scoffing at you bringing up banzai charges has nothing to do with that and everything to do with the fact that it wasn't an uncommon opinion for men his age in Japan. Absolutely no one that likes or respects Mishima does so because they are under the impression that he is some brilliant military strategist. Hurr durr the Founding Fathers didn't like black people. Fuck them and everything they did, right?
And yes, understanding and spreading the word about the evils of globalism is absolutely a big plus. I'll ignore the part where you erect a blatantly reductive strawman there.
I'm not sure you know what that word means. Downvotes != sperging. Also, note how I did not downvote your first posts, despite them being in direct opposition with me. I downvoted when you started making all these grand extrapolations from my words and erecting blatantly reductive strawmen. I downvoted when it became clear you getting emotional about the topic was causing you to fill in the blanks in a retarded manner.
Strawman. At least feel some shame if you are going to be that blatant.
Because they objectively were of their own volition. That says nothing on whether or not I think it was the right choice, but this is not complicated logic to grasp. I'm confident you can do it.
This is why I started downvoting your comments. I do not "follow" him, whatever that even fucking means, and my posts so far should have made that more than evident by now. The dude rarely comes up in western discourse, so his name rarely even crosses my mind unless I'm cleaning my bookshelf.
That being said, the notion that being anti-globalist is the sole singular thing I've ever agreed with the dude on is also retarded, and not something I ever said or implied in any of my comments. I'll go find better people to "follow" (?) if you go work on your reading comprehension, because going back and forth like this is a waste of time for both of us at this rate.