I don’t think one can honestly say that every part of it is Jewish; I’d say that the single most famous feminist is Susan B. Anthony, and she’s notably not on this list. Also notably absent is her compatriot, Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Putting forth an absolute claim so easily overturned makes your position look foolish.
Then OP should have made that argument, rather than an exaggerated claim supported by cherry picked examples. “The origin of Feminism is Jewish” would also make a snappy headline, and maybe it’s more defensible. I just know that this particular claim is easily, obviously contradicted.
It's a turn of phrase. I think it's clear that the examples here are cherry picked, however the impact, based on my viewing, is highlighting how many (((whites))) are in here. People are likely to know these names. That's why they were picked. They may not know that they are jewish.
So let me get this straight - there is a group of 100 aliens (green skin, weird eyes, weird language), who push manage to push an agenda, and then there are 5 who are the most notorious pushers of that agenda... directed at humans. These 100 aliens aren't so convincing, but oh boy, these 5 people are really significant.
So you claim the 100 aliens are irrelevant and that these 5 are spearheading it?
But why is everybody in glass tanks fueling alien spaceships' propulsion then?
You’re attacking an argument I never made. The only thing I said is that this is a clear, obvious exaggeration, and that leading with a clear, obvious exaggeration makes you look wrong. I might question exactly how accurate the ratios in your analogy are, but as I already said, I am willing to entertain the idea that Feminism is inordinately influenced or created by Jews. The problem is, that is not the claim that was made and it is not the claim I am taking issue with. It is also not a claim this meme does anything to support—as another user pointed out, there is a massive list of notable non-Jwish feminists. If this infographic explained why and how the figures chosen shaped or influenced feminism more than their non-Jewish counterparts, that would be something, but again, that is not what this says. What this says is an exaggeration.
If someone says “drinking water kills you,” and then they clarify that they mean “inhaling water kills you,” those are two very different points, and the second point is not wrong. Unfortunately, they already look like an idiot because they led with the first statement, and defending the two statements as being identical doesn’t help.
The claim that feminism is Jewish does not rest solely on a ratio of how many important feminists were Jewish themselves, although it is overwhelming if you take into account the population.
The most important thing is that the feminism comes from Jewish culture: a culture where women are cattle and in a conflictual relationship with men, due to the Jews not having the concept of love. It makes perfect sense for a Jewish woman to be a feminist, but this ideology is completely alien to European culture where a man and woman form a family based on love and mutual affection.
If you read either of my other comments in this thread, or even paid more attention to the one you are responding to, you would see that I do not disagree with the idea that feminism may have strong Jewish influences, or be inordinately Jewish. I merely disagree with the assertion that it is wholly and entirely Jewish, and I also doubt the logical faculties of anyone putting forth an obvious exaggeration with the hopes of achieving anything other than making their position look weaker than it may actually be.
Mary Wollstonecraft, Emmeline Pankhurst, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony, Sarah Moore Grimké, Angelina Grimké, Mary Ann M’Clintock, Paula Wright Davis, Lydia Maria Child, Frances Wright, Abby Kelly, Rebecca Latimer Felton, Ernestine Rose, Lucretia Coffin Mott, Adrienne Rich, Margaret Fuller, Maria W. Stewart, Lucy Stone, Marilyn French, Evelyn Reed, Alexandra Kollontai, Simone de Beauvoir, Virginia Woolf, Catharine MacKinnon, Valerie Solanas, Marilyn Frye, Juliet Mitchell, bell hooks, Kate Millett, Germaine Greer, Sally Miller Gearhart, Camille Paglia, Sheila Jeffreys, Luce Irigaray, Inessa Armand, Julia Kristeva, Mary Ann Evans, Rosi Braidotti, Donna Haraway, Ella Baker, Anita Hill, Patricia Hill Collins, Chandra Mohanty
Now, I will freely admit that I am not the most educated about feminism's origins. It could be (although it seems highly unlikely) that most or all of these people actually are Jewish. However, if they are, as the other commenter asserts, not Jews, then by definition the ideology cannot be entirely Jewish, as I do know enough to recognize several of these names as being highly influential in their own right. More influential, to my knowledge, than most of the names presented in the original meme. One could potentially argue that these women were themselves influenced by Jews (I would not know), but to my thinking that would bring us back to my original contention: the strongest claim you can potentially make with accuracy is that the roots of the ideology are Jewish.
Or perhaps the roots are not Jewish. The other problem that I have been attempting to point out is that even if you are right, I—and most other people—will not be inclined to assume you have a good point when the first attempt you make to make that point appears so completely wrong. Any claim you present to me now has to deal with the additional burden of my perception being that your first claim was, and by extension you are, rather foolish, even if that perception is unjust. If you want to prove that "all of feminism is Jewish," it's not enough to just list a bunch of famous feminists that were Jews when someone can list just as many famous feminists that weren't. You have to demonstrate that the ones that were Jews are the ones that set the course of the ideology, that directed it, that made it grow and kept it alive and had more influence than or had influence over their non-Jewish contemporaries. You may be completely right, but even if you are, that doesn't change the critique I put forth: because of the flaws in the logic, this meme is bad, and actively detrimental to your cause.
I don’t think one can honestly say that every part of it is Jewish; I’d say that the single most famous feminist is Susan B. Anthony, and she’s notably not on this list. Also notably absent is her compatriot, Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Putting forth an absolute claim so easily overturned makes your position look foolish.
The written foundations of feminism are overwhelmingly Jewish from the start over a century ago, to the present day.
Consider what a tiny minority Jewish people are, and then consider their massive overrpresentation in feminist activism.
Don't tell me 'it's not Jewish'. It would be like saying Warhammer isn't for neckbeard grognards.
Then OP should have made that argument, rather than an exaggerated claim supported by cherry picked examples. “The origin of Feminism is Jewish” would also make a snappy headline, and maybe it’s more defensible. I just know that this particular claim is easily, obviously contradicted.
It's a turn of phrase. I think it's clear that the examples here are cherry picked, however the impact, based on my viewing, is highlighting how many (((whites))) are in here. People are likely to know these names. That's why they were picked. They may not know that they are jewish.
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I still don't know what they think they're proving.
Disparity = Discrimination is what I think they are trying to go with.
Starting off with a lie, then.
Oy vey shut it down.
So let me get this straight - there is a group of 100 aliens (green skin, weird eyes, weird language), who push manage to push an agenda, and then there are 5 who are the most notorious pushers of that agenda... directed at humans. These 100 aliens aren't so convincing, but oh boy, these 5 people are really significant.
So you claim the 100 aliens are irrelevant and that these 5 are spearheading it?
But why is everybody in glass tanks fueling alien spaceships' propulsion then?
You’re attacking an argument I never made. The only thing I said is that this is a clear, obvious exaggeration, and that leading with a clear, obvious exaggeration makes you look wrong. I might question exactly how accurate the ratios in your analogy are, but as I already said, I am willing to entertain the idea that Feminism is inordinately influenced or created by Jews. The problem is, that is not the claim that was made and it is not the claim I am taking issue with. It is also not a claim this meme does anything to support—as another user pointed out, there is a massive list of notable non-Jwish feminists. If this infographic explained why and how the figures chosen shaped or influenced feminism more than their non-Jewish counterparts, that would be something, but again, that is not what this says. What this says is an exaggeration.
If someone says “drinking water kills you,” and then they clarify that they mean “inhaling water kills you,” those are two very different points, and the second point is not wrong. Unfortunately, they already look like an idiot because they led with the first statement, and defending the two statements as being identical doesn’t help.
The claim that feminism is Jewish does not rest solely on a ratio of how many important feminists were Jewish themselves, although it is overwhelming if you take into account the population.
The most important thing is that the feminism comes from Jewish culture: a culture where women are cattle and in a conflictual relationship with men, due to the Jews not having the concept of love. It makes perfect sense for a Jewish woman to be a feminist, but this ideology is completely alien to European culture where a man and woman form a family based on love and mutual affection.
If you read either of my other comments in this thread, or even paid more attention to the one you are responding to, you would see that I do not disagree with the idea that feminism may have strong Jewish influences, or be inordinately Jewish. I merely disagree with the assertion that it is wholly and entirely Jewish, and I also doubt the logical faculties of anyone putting forth an obvious exaggeration with the hopes of achieving anything other than making their position look weaker than it may actually be.
But it is entirely Jewish. It doesn't just have "strong Jewish influences". It is Jewish.
To borrow the list of a different commenter:
Now, I will freely admit that I am not the most educated about feminism's origins. It could be (although it seems highly unlikely) that most or all of these people actually are Jewish. However, if they are, as the other commenter asserts, not Jews, then by definition the ideology cannot be entirely Jewish, as I do know enough to recognize several of these names as being highly influential in their own right. More influential, to my knowledge, than most of the names presented in the original meme. One could potentially argue that these women were themselves influenced by Jews (I would not know), but to my thinking that would bring us back to my original contention: the strongest claim you can potentially make with accuracy is that the roots of the ideology are Jewish.
Or perhaps the roots are not Jewish. The other problem that I have been attempting to point out is that even if you are right, I—and most other people—will not be inclined to assume you have a good point when the first attempt you make to make that point appears so completely wrong. Any claim you present to me now has to deal with the additional burden of my perception being that your first claim was, and by extension you are, rather foolish, even if that perception is unjust. If you want to prove that "all of feminism is Jewish," it's not enough to just list a bunch of famous feminists that were Jews when someone can list just as many famous feminists that weren't. You have to demonstrate that the ones that were Jews are the ones that set the course of the ideology, that directed it, that made it grow and kept it alive and had more influence than or had influence over their non-Jewish contemporaries. You may be completely right, but even if you are, that doesn't change the critique I put forth: because of the flaws in the logic, this meme is bad, and actively detrimental to your cause.
This is why I don't hate you as much as the rest of the noticer trash.
Aww, I love you too.
Someone downvoted you for a clear joke, just for replying to me. They truly are rabid.
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He's allowed to be insulting to ideologues.