The claim that feminism is Jewish does not rest solely on a ratio of how many important feminists were Jewish themselves, although it is overwhelming if you take into account the population.
The most important thing is that the feminism comes from Jewish culture: a culture where women are cattle and in a conflictual relationship with men, due to the Jews not having the concept of love. It makes perfect sense for a Jewish woman to be a feminist, but this ideology is completely alien to European culture where a man and woman form a family based on love and mutual affection.
If you read either of my other comments in this thread, or even paid more attention to the one you are responding to, you would see that I do not disagree with the idea that feminism may have strong Jewish influences, or be inordinately Jewish. I merely disagree with the assertion that it is wholly and entirely Jewish, and I also doubt the logical faculties of anyone putting forth an obvious exaggeration with the hopes of achieving anything other than making their position look weaker than it may actually be.
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Now, I will freely admit that I am not the most educated about feminism's origins. It could be (although it seems highly unlikely) that most or all of these people actually are Jewish. However, if they are, as the other commenter asserts, not Jews, then by definition the ideology cannot be entirely Jewish, as I do know enough to recognize several of these names as being highly influential in their own right. More influential, to my knowledge, than most of the names presented in the original meme. One could potentially argue that these women were themselves influenced by Jews (I would not know), but to my thinking that would bring us back to my original contention: the strongest claim you can potentially make with accuracy is that the roots of the ideology are Jewish.
Or perhaps the roots are not Jewish. The other problem that I have been attempting to point out is that even if you are right, I—and most other people—will not be inclined to assume you have a good point when the first attempt you make to make that point appears so completely wrong. Any claim you present to me now has to deal with the additional burden of my perception being that your first claim was, and by extension you are, rather foolish, even if that perception is unjust. If you want to prove that "all of feminism is Jewish," it's not enough to just list a bunch of famous feminists that were Jews when someone can list just as many famous feminists that weren't. You have to demonstrate that the ones that were Jews are the ones that set the course of the ideology, that directed it, that made it grow and kept it alive and had more influence than or had influence over their non-Jewish contemporaries. You may be completely right, but even if you are, that doesn't change the critique I put forth: because of the flaws in the logic, this meme is bad, and actively detrimental to your cause.
I did not state "all feminists are Jews" or even "all the most prominent feminists are Jews". I stated that feminism is Jewish. It's different.
I think our disconnect here is that you may be a liberal who considers an ideology as being the sum of individual contributions; for me on the other hand an ethnicity has a cultural character, and therefore certain ideologies and world outlooks can be assigned to (and therefore claim that they come from) the ethnicity as a whole.
You need to look at the culture of a people, not at the individual contributors. A list of non-Jewish feminists means very little, even because it could easily be that the vast majority on that list are either cryptojews or married to Jews or pupils to Jews. But even if the majority of feminists were not Jews, that would not disprove my statement because feminism still comes from and is part of Jewish culture and it's not part of the traditional European culture.
The claim that feminism is Jewish does not rest solely on a ratio of how many important feminists were Jewish themselves, although it is overwhelming if you take into account the population.
The most important thing is that the feminism comes from Jewish culture: a culture where women are cattle and in a conflictual relationship with men, due to the Jews not having the concept of love. It makes perfect sense for a Jewish woman to be a feminist, but this ideology is completely alien to European culture where a man and woman form a family based on love and mutual affection.
If you read either of my other comments in this thread, or even paid more attention to the one you are responding to, you would see that I do not disagree with the idea that feminism may have strong Jewish influences, or be inordinately Jewish. I merely disagree with the assertion that it is wholly and entirely Jewish, and I also doubt the logical faculties of anyone putting forth an obvious exaggeration with the hopes of achieving anything other than making their position look weaker than it may actually be.
But it is entirely Jewish. It doesn't just have "strong Jewish influences". It is Jewish.
To borrow the list of a different commenter:
Now, I will freely admit that I am not the most educated about feminism's origins. It could be (although it seems highly unlikely) that most or all of these people actually are Jewish. However, if they are, as the other commenter asserts, not Jews, then by definition the ideology cannot be entirely Jewish, as I do know enough to recognize several of these names as being highly influential in their own right. More influential, to my knowledge, than most of the names presented in the original meme. One could potentially argue that these women were themselves influenced by Jews (I would not know), but to my thinking that would bring us back to my original contention: the strongest claim you can potentially make with accuracy is that the roots of the ideology are Jewish.
Or perhaps the roots are not Jewish. The other problem that I have been attempting to point out is that even if you are right, I—and most other people—will not be inclined to assume you have a good point when the first attempt you make to make that point appears so completely wrong. Any claim you present to me now has to deal with the additional burden of my perception being that your first claim was, and by extension you are, rather foolish, even if that perception is unjust. If you want to prove that "all of feminism is Jewish," it's not enough to just list a bunch of famous feminists that were Jews when someone can list just as many famous feminists that weren't. You have to demonstrate that the ones that were Jews are the ones that set the course of the ideology, that directed it, that made it grow and kept it alive and had more influence than or had influence over their non-Jewish contemporaries. You may be completely right, but even if you are, that doesn't change the critique I put forth: because of the flaws in the logic, this meme is bad, and actively detrimental to your cause.
I did not state "all feminists are Jews" or even "all the most prominent feminists are Jews". I stated that feminism is Jewish. It's different.
I think our disconnect here is that you may be a liberal who considers an ideology as being the sum of individual contributions; for me on the other hand an ethnicity has a cultural character, and therefore certain ideologies and world outlooks can be assigned to (and therefore claim that they come from) the ethnicity as a whole.
You need to look at the culture of a people, not at the individual contributors. A list of non-Jewish feminists means very little, even because it could easily be that the vast majority on that list are either cryptojews or married to Jews or pupils to Jews. But even if the majority of feminists were not Jews, that would not disprove my statement because feminism still comes from and is part of Jewish culture and it's not part of the traditional European culture.