DeSantis acknowledged he made a mistake even locking down temporarily.
He is a man capable of growth and learning from his mistakes.
He is absolutely better than the old asshole who refuses to even admit he ever made a mistake.
We had Trump defending hiring Christopher Wray just recently by saying time will tell on that hire. I wonder how time has been to Trump's most ardent supporters who got their lives ruined on J6.
Trump 2024 is a dogshit campaign focused more on attacking DeSantis instead of presenting a positive vision for the country and attacking the Dems and Biden.
Anyone who prefers Trump 2024 at this point to DeSantis 2024 is someone who values propping the narcissistic individual Trump up more than picking the candidate who can actually win a general.
Trump has not demonstrated that he has learned ANYTHING from his mistakes.
This is a man who is incapable of any self-improvement.
He will undoubtedly lose in the general election in 2024 if God forbid he becomes the nominee since he has spent the last few years alienating even more people and accruing unnecessary baggage such as J6 and spreading nasty lies about people like DeSantis. Trump might even lose Florida in the general election in 2024 if he is the nominee and he keeps shitting on the state of Florida as a dig on DeSantis.
He is a man capable of growth and learning from his mistakes
I don't really care for the rest of this thread, not my country after all but: No, he is a man that's able to project the image of someone that is capable of growth and learning from his mistakes.
That may very well be, because he is that man, but as I figure you have to be at least a little sociopathic to climb that high on the political ladder, it may very well be an act that he puts on to gain political power.
I do not care about any of this, it's all just bullshit. All you have to do is look at what DeSantis does for his foreign policy, how he handles things like Disney (kid gloves), and who is supporting him. He's a mainstream republican from the 30 years ago. We do not need Bush the First.
You are insane if you think he is a mainstream Republican.
You are repeating blatant lies pushed by Trump 2024 cocksucker Alex Bruesewitz who is a top shill for the Trump 2024 campaign.
DeSantis has constantly said he is against U.S. intervention in Ukraine. He voted against U.S. intervention in Syria. He is a realist on foreign policy and not a neo-con.
He actually has made Disney subservient to a board of individuals he appointed. If that is kid gloves on Disney, you are delusional.
He is the only governor to fire a Soros prosecutor, Andrew Warren who wasn't enforcing the laws.
He is the only governor to go after Pfizer and investigate their shitty vax.
He is the only governor to appoint a Surgeon General who says the MRNA vaxes are not safe and not needed for healthy people.
What fucking Republican from 30 years would ever do this?
Calling him just like Bush the first demonstrates your level of delusion.
Tone down your rhetoric for one, you are the one screeching like the nutcase here.
I am not repeating his blatant lies. This is one where Trump was actually right. DeSantis has a shit foreign policy. It's even worse than Trump's original. DeSantis is very good on domestic policies and is one of the reasons I liked him for reelection. Your TDS is making you blind to this man's faults or you're being paid to screech like a banshee.
DeSantis has excellent hindsight. No, he is not a neocon. He is a mainstream republican. Mainstream republicans are 'small government until you piss us off'. They strongly support favoring Christianity in law. They claim to support the constitution, but are willing to ignore the spirit for the letter if they feel like it. There are other parts, but this is the main body of a mainstream republican. DeSantis embodies this.
Disney had their town title taken from them and all the responsibility that went with it, giving them a chance to step back and focus on their core business. If they have to pay the $1 Billion in bonds, that's fine because they don't have to cover any of the other shit Reedy Creek is up to their eyeballs in. Red Tape, Debt, Bureaucracy, Public Works, Pensions, Environmental Issues, Welfare, etc. Everything that comes with being a governing body. He took this from them and done nothing else. It's like moving back in with your parents to weather a financial crises. This is kid gloves. There has been no punishing them for their activism, no punishing them for their harming of kids, no punishing them for hiring pedos, no punishing them for any of the crimes they commit.
Yeah, he fired 1. Good show. There's others he hasn't even mentioned. Even in his own AG's office.
DeSantis is good on the covid bullshit, like Trump if he had been in office 2 years later and his administration hadn't been hijacked. But DeSantis still gave businesses and local governments too much leeway to impinge on our rights. It took him 2 years to actually start cracking down, and this was long after covid was proven a joke. For all his bluster, he wasn't really for protecting civil liberties over letting petty bureaucrats and rich cunts who were afraid of losing a little bit of money have free reign.
The Surgeon General of Florida has yet to impress me outside a press conference, and that impression isn't too favorable.
All of them. Bush the first was actually a good President, all things considered, he was mediocre as a politician. The problem was that he was also an interventionist and came in at the end of a decade of financial crises.
DeSantis is not a mainstream Republican by any sense of that word.
You are grasping at straws to justify your devotion to Trump by comparing DeSantis to George H.W. Bush.
The important question to me is what do most of the GOP primary voters want?
Do they want to actually beat Biden or do they want to prop Trump up again as some kind of misguided revenge?
The winner of the primary will be decided on which of these two statements matters more?
I cannot believe you think Dr. Ladapo is not impressive as the Surgeon General of Florida.
I am certain you cannot name a better Surgeon General of any state who calls out the COVID vaxxes as shitty.
There is no other Republican governor who is even doing half of what DeSantis is doing.
DeSantis is willing to admit he made a mistake during the very start of COVID. I respect the fact that he is capable of learning from his mistakes
Trump is not capable of learning from his mistakes.
Nominating Trump again in 2024 is the most suicidal thing that the GOP primary voters ever could do.
I will not tone down my rhetoric on this topic because I actually want to atleast try to win 2024 and I am sick of individuals insisting that Trump must be the nominee and that he is a better candidate. Trump is a weaker candidate on both electability and policy. Trump still is not capable of admitting the lockdowns were a mistake.
Preferring Trump 2024 over DeSantis 2024 signifies that the individual prefers loud buffoonery over calm competence.
The important question to me is what do most of the GOP primary voters want?
To be left the fuck alone, and to be protected from the outside world. No one can or will promise this because they want to be elected and reelected. Take away fear, and people don't vote.
Dr. Ladapo
...hasn't done much that I've seen. He's said some pretty words, but other than moving to banning tranny shit for kids, that's all. 2 good things is no longer good enough to impress me.
The same goes for DeSantis. What little he's done isn't impressive. It's not even the bare minimum. The entirety of the Republican Party has been a disgrace.
No one learns from their mistakes. They simply get better at hiding the bodies.
The fact that Trump pisses you and so many other people off is all I need. The President himself is nothing, he's a signatory. His administration does all the work and the powers invested him by congress and the supreme court only counts if they approve of his actions.. That Biden has so much power is unheard of and needs to be stopped. Presidents for generations have been given more and more authority they don't legally have. Trump is the perfect tool to force congress and the supreme court to begin curtailing that severely.
We don't need someone to act calm and rational. We have that now. We need someone who gets shit done for the betterment of our world, even if its in reaction to him.
Trump won't win a general election and then Biden gets 4 more years with no checks and balances since Trump 2024 also tanks the key down ballot races. In this scenario we don't flip the Senate and we also lose the House.
You give the game away with your statement you are for Trump because it pisses off people you don't like including me.
You are an unserious individual. You don't see that America is at the precipice of total ruin.
Losing all three of the Presidency, Senate and House in 2024 means it is all over.
Say goodbye to the filibuster and hello to a packed Supreme Court, the addition of D.C. and Puerto as new states and say hello to federal gun control.
Nominating DeSantis ensures that we have a shot at the Presidency and it prevents us from losing all three branches at the same time.
Even if DeSantis does loses the general to Biden, he is not toxic to the key downballot races. The Dems can be prevented from getting a trifecta.
People like you who are willing to risk the fate of the nation just to nominate Trump as a fuck you once again in 2024 are beyond any logic and reason.
I pray most of the primary voters are not as shortsighted as you.
We are suckers being forced to eat shit, no matter who these fucking fake lying permanent shitbag political parties sacrifice on the altar of the Presidency.
God forbid if Trump becomes the nominee again after all this nonsense, it will cement that GOP primary voters are even more unintelligent than even the most extreme of the wokies.
Don't fucking care. DeSantis is not better.
DeSantis acknowledged he made a mistake even locking down temporarily.
He is a man capable of growth and learning from his mistakes.
He is absolutely better than the old asshole who refuses to even admit he ever made a mistake.
We had Trump defending hiring Christopher Wray just recently by saying time will tell on that hire. I wonder how time has been to Trump's most ardent supporters who got their lives ruined on J6.
Trump 2024 is a dogshit campaign focused more on attacking DeSantis instead of presenting a positive vision for the country and attacking the Dems and Biden.
Anyone who prefers Trump 2024 at this point to DeSantis 2024 is someone who values propping the narcissistic individual Trump up more than picking the candidate who can actually win a general.
Trump has not demonstrated that he has learned ANYTHING from his mistakes.
This is a man who is incapable of any self-improvement.
He will undoubtedly lose in the general election in 2024 if God forbid he becomes the nominee since he has spent the last few years alienating even more people and accruing unnecessary baggage such as J6 and spreading nasty lies about people like DeSantis. Trump might even lose Florida in the general election in 2024 if he is the nominee and he keeps shitting on the state of Florida as a dig on DeSantis.
I don't really care for the rest of this thread, not my country after all but: No, he is a man that's able to project the image of someone that is capable of growth and learning from his mistakes.
That may very well be, because he is that man, but as I figure you have to be at least a little sociopathic to climb that high on the political ladder, it may very well be an act that he puts on to gain political power.
I do not care about any of this, it's all just bullshit. All you have to do is look at what DeSantis does for his foreign policy, how he handles things like Disney (kid gloves), and who is supporting him. He's a mainstream republican from the 30 years ago. We do not need Bush the First.
You are insane if you think he is a mainstream Republican.
You are repeating blatant lies pushed by Trump 2024 cocksucker Alex Bruesewitz who is a top shill for the Trump 2024 campaign.
DeSantis has constantly said he is against U.S. intervention in Ukraine. He voted against U.S. intervention in Syria. He is a realist on foreign policy and not a neo-con.
He actually has made Disney subservient to a board of individuals he appointed. If that is kid gloves on Disney, you are delusional.
He is the only governor to fire a Soros prosecutor, Andrew Warren who wasn't enforcing the laws.
He is the only governor to go after Pfizer and investigate their shitty vax.
He is the only governor to appoint a Surgeon General who says the MRNA vaxes are not safe and not needed for healthy people.
What fucking Republican from 30 years would ever do this?
Calling him just like Bush the first demonstrates your level of delusion.
Tone down your rhetoric for one, you are the one screeching like the nutcase here.
I am not repeating his blatant lies. This is one where Trump was actually right. DeSantis has a shit foreign policy. It's even worse than Trump's original. DeSantis is very good on domestic policies and is one of the reasons I liked him for reelection. Your TDS is making you blind to this man's faults or you're being paid to screech like a banshee.
DeSantis has excellent hindsight. No, he is not a neocon. He is a mainstream republican. Mainstream republicans are 'small government until you piss us off'. They strongly support favoring Christianity in law. They claim to support the constitution, but are willing to ignore the spirit for the letter if they feel like it. There are other parts, but this is the main body of a mainstream republican. DeSantis embodies this.
Disney had their town title taken from them and all the responsibility that went with it, giving them a chance to step back and focus on their core business. If they have to pay the $1 Billion in bonds, that's fine because they don't have to cover any of the other shit Reedy Creek is up to their eyeballs in. Red Tape, Debt, Bureaucracy, Public Works, Pensions, Environmental Issues, Welfare, etc. Everything that comes with being a governing body. He took this from them and done nothing else. It's like moving back in with your parents to weather a financial crises. This is kid gloves. There has been no punishing them for their activism, no punishing them for their harming of kids, no punishing them for hiring pedos, no punishing them for any of the crimes they commit.
Yeah, he fired 1. Good show. There's others he hasn't even mentioned. Even in his own AG's office.
DeSantis is good on the covid bullshit, like Trump if he had been in office 2 years later and his administration hadn't been hijacked. But DeSantis still gave businesses and local governments too much leeway to impinge on our rights. It took him 2 years to actually start cracking down, and this was long after covid was proven a joke. For all his bluster, he wasn't really for protecting civil liberties over letting petty bureaucrats and rich cunts who were afraid of losing a little bit of money have free reign.
The Surgeon General of Florida has yet to impress me outside a press conference, and that impression isn't too favorable.
All of them. Bush the first was actually a good President, all things considered, he was mediocre as a politician. The problem was that he was also an interventionist and came in at the end of a decade of financial crises.
DeSantis is not a mainstream Republican by any sense of that word.
You are grasping at straws to justify your devotion to Trump by comparing DeSantis to George H.W. Bush.
The important question to me is what do most of the GOP primary voters want?
Do they want to actually beat Biden or do they want to prop Trump up again as some kind of misguided revenge?
The winner of the primary will be decided on which of these two statements matters more?
I cannot believe you think Dr. Ladapo is not impressive as the Surgeon General of Florida.
I am certain you cannot name a better Surgeon General of any state who calls out the COVID vaxxes as shitty.
There is no other Republican governor who is even doing half of what DeSantis is doing.
DeSantis is willing to admit he made a mistake during the very start of COVID. I respect the fact that he is capable of learning from his mistakes
Trump is not capable of learning from his mistakes.
Nominating Trump again in 2024 is the most suicidal thing that the GOP primary voters ever could do.
I will not tone down my rhetoric on this topic because I actually want to atleast try to win 2024 and I am sick of individuals insisting that Trump must be the nominee and that he is a better candidate. Trump is a weaker candidate on both electability and policy. Trump still is not capable of admitting the lockdowns were a mistake.
Preferring Trump 2024 over DeSantis 2024 signifies that the individual prefers loud buffoonery over calm competence.
To be left the fuck alone, and to be protected from the outside world. No one can or will promise this because they want to be elected and reelected. Take away fear, and people don't vote.
...hasn't done much that I've seen. He's said some pretty words, but other than moving to banning tranny shit for kids, that's all. 2 good things is no longer good enough to impress me.
The same goes for DeSantis. What little he's done isn't impressive. It's not even the bare minimum. The entirety of the Republican Party has been a disgrace.
No one learns from their mistakes. They simply get better at hiding the bodies.
The fact that Trump pisses you and so many other people off is all I need. The President himself is nothing, he's a signatory. His administration does all the work and the powers invested him by congress and the supreme court only counts if they approve of his actions.. That Biden has so much power is unheard of and needs to be stopped. Presidents for generations have been given more and more authority they don't legally have. Trump is the perfect tool to force congress and the supreme court to begin curtailing that severely.
We don't need someone to act calm and rational. We have that now. We need someone who gets shit done for the betterment of our world, even if its in reaction to him.
Trump won't win a general election and then Biden gets 4 more years with no checks and balances since Trump 2024 also tanks the key down ballot races. In this scenario we don't flip the Senate and we also lose the House.
You give the game away with your statement you are for Trump because it pisses off people you don't like including me.
You are an unserious individual. You don't see that America is at the precipice of total ruin.
Losing all three of the Presidency, Senate and House in 2024 means it is all over.
Say goodbye to the filibuster and hello to a packed Supreme Court, the addition of D.C. and Puerto as new states and say hello to federal gun control.
Nominating DeSantis ensures that we have a shot at the Presidency and it prevents us from losing all three branches at the same time.
Even if DeSantis does loses the general to Biden, he is not toxic to the key downballot races. The Dems can be prevented from getting a trifecta.
People like you who are willing to risk the fate of the nation just to nominate Trump as a fuck you once again in 2024 are beyond any logic and reason.
I pray most of the primary voters are not as shortsighted as you.
Trump is a clown.
We are suckers being forced to eat shit, no matter who these fucking fake lying permanent shitbag political parties sacrifice on the altar of the Presidency.
Please God just let DeSantis win, I just want Trump to shut up and have a competent president
God forbid if Trump becomes the nominee again after all this nonsense, it will cement that GOP primary voters are even more unintelligent than even the most extreme of the wokies.
I like how he promised to end covid vaccine mandates in schools when he was the one who made the mandates possible by fast-tracking the covid vaccine.
The poison and the cure.