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– Galean 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

So we need to, not get rid of cows, but like, try to balance our diet so that not so much of our land is being used to raise cows, cause it's killing the Ozone layer."

I thought the Ozone layer stuff was a myth and the hole is increasing and decreasing on a seasonal bases and is not increasing on average. I also did not know cows had an impact on it.

I hope parents take their kids out of that school, honestly the teacher is crazy.

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– Bottle_of_Memes 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

In any case the greenhouse effect has absolutely nothing to do with ozone or the ozone layer

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

like

I'm by no means an expert, so pls no bully, but as far as I know, the ozone layer stuff was real - which is why some chemicals used in refrigeration were banned. But now it's fine, evidenced by the fact that they haven't stirred up hysteria over it for a very long time. In fact, I only remember it from high school.

Same for 'acid rain'. Member that?

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– Strike08 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Freon was the cooling agent in fridges. It did react on the ozone layer but when the use of freon dropped the ozone layer started recovering again.

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– Cyberguy64 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

The major evidence people had was that the ozone hole, which is a periodic phenomenon over antarctica that opens up and then refills as a natural cycle, was a bit wider for a few years before closing back up as usual. They spun that into "We're destroying our protection from the sun and now we're all gonna die!" and leveraged the resulting panic into political power.

Sound familiar?

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– CatoTheElder 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

There are 2 problems with that:

  1. There is no transport mechanism by which heavy CFxCLx ((88 to 153 amu) a family of very heavy molecule relative to N2 (28 amu)) can get from the northern hemisphere ground level to the southern hemisphere stratopause.

  2. China has increased it's CFC production and usage more than sufficiently to cover for everyone else's reduction in usage. Essentially there was no global reduction in CFC usage.

The Montreal protocols are just global communism in disguise.

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– Cyberguy64 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

I love how China, by breaking all the rules, reveals that most modern "issues" are just smoke and mirrors to shield our evil governments while they cement their power.

Granted, China is still an awful place that's worse in a lot of ways, but credit where its due.

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– Galean 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The hysteria about the ozone I think was do to how it was measured during the expansion of the hole without realizing it shrinks after. The effect was do to chemicals reacting to sunlight.

I do think humans caused the "hole" or rather increased it. that was not even a hole but rather a thinning of the ozone layer over the Antarctic. I'm also ok that we changed from aerosols to prevent it increasing.

However, the ozone hole was not a hole, ozone was not linked to skin cancer or damaging your eyes because ozone does not stop UVA light but everyone feared it. At one point they moved from skin cancer to wind patterns.

The effect was that now the activists and elites know they can use fear to control the population by marketing and making some wield unverified conclusions. On top of that they consider it as a win for the environmental movement and use it was a flag ship of why they are the good guys.

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