It's very telling how u/AntonioOfVenice repeated this lie after knowing it's a lie, because I've informed him about it already.
It's in no way a lie, but then again, you call everything that does not fit your US-worshiping ways a 'lie'. Hell, you claimed that the US was so caring and tender and worried about people in Africa starving.
Any time now you will be calling Donald Rumsfeld's visits to Iraq a lie.
Nuland was being "fuck the EU" (it's a quote) because she supported the compromise deal offered by Yanukovych
Why was she determining who the next PM of "Ukraine" would be? Why was she involved to begin with?
While the UE (in this case actually meaning Poland and allies) didn't want to compromise with Yanuk (and Russia pulling his steings).
You know full well that Yanuk was not a puppet, that he was interested in what was good for Yanuk and not Russia. But thanks for admitting that the EU was working to mount a coup there.
It all wasn't very long since She-Clinton's new "Russia Reset" policy for Russia, being back to "our Russian partners" idiocy from before Georgia 2008.
What a joke. Clinton was an anti-Russia hawk.
Polish leaders were at the Maidan
As were Guy Verhofstadt and John McCain. The worst of the neocons.
They just literally go full retard on this issue
Show me the people who don't go full retard on this issue. I assume the people who swallow American propaganda hook, line and sinker?
Why are you even surprised at all, much less somehow disbelieving? It's not new, with all the American humanitarian aid to Africa (more than any other country), and even leading the UN armed intervention to end the starvation in Somalia (when the warlords in Mogadishu were stealing the aid going to the countryside).
The Americans even feed the Palestinians, who obsessively hate the literal hand that feeds them. ("Zio Don" wanted to end it lol)
Rumsfeld visits Iraq was just like She-Clinton cackling with Lavrov. Fortunately they dropped this shit in both cases.
Not she, but Yanuk. It's what he proposed. Publicly. It wasn't even any secret. It was rejected after considerations. You can easily find news articles about it all.
Yanuk became a puppet at that moment, which is why he followed on the idiotic order from Russia to have the Maidan shot up to pacify the unrest. It worked for Russian regime in 1993 to just massacre uppity citizens (and a lot of random bystanders) in the streets of Moscow but it's not Russia.
Btw his own former mentor Kuchma is an Ukrainian patriot.
Not the EU but us, and not a coup but a revolution. The military stayed in the barracks all the time and took no sides.
Again, unlike in Russia. And the architect of the missile blitz against Ukraine is the only officer who had killed people in Moscow during the 1991 coup.
Never in my life I even heard about "Guy Verhofstadt". I just checked out and he's not even an American, much less a Neocon brand of Republicans. It seems that the word "neocon" is for you what "nazi" is for American libs and Russian commies.
It's not new, with all the American humanitarian aid to Africa (more than any other country),
Slow tap... it's called influence buying. You are smart enough to know what "foreign aid" is, so don't pretend to be dumb. Or are you going to tell me that the food exports of the USSR from its own starving citizens to its satellites in the aftermath of WW2 were also "humanitarian"?
The Americans even feed the Palestinians, who obsessively hate the literal hand that feeds them.
I mean, I'm pro-Israel, but given the fact that the Americans support Israel rather strongly, they were not exactly wrong to hate the Americans. The Americans feed them so that they will remain pacified. Panem et circensis, member?
Yanuk became a puppet at that moment, which is why he followed on the idiotic order from Russia to have the Maidan shot up to pacify the unrest
Do you have any proof of any such 'order from Russia'? What's more, you know full well that there is controversy about who shot at those Maidan protesters.
It worked for Russian regime in 1993 to just massacre uppity citizens (and a lot of random bystanders) in the streets of Moscow but it's not Russia.
You mean when the American-backed Yeltsin had tanks shoot at the Supreme Soviet after it voted to impeach him, and the Americans then wrote a new constitution for Russia which made the situation even worse (though it ironically paved the way for Putin)?
Btw his own former mentor Kuchma is an Ukrainian patriot.
Also a murderer. Note that Kuchma did manage to play nice and not get invaded, which cannot be said of the Western puppets who have ruled Ukraine since 1994.
BTW, Yanukovich was from Donetsk, so he was Donbas patriot.
Not the EU but us, and not a coup but a revolution. The military stayed in the barracks all the time and took no sides.
When an armed mob takes over the government, that's a coup, whether or not "the military" is involved.
Again, unlike in Russia. And the architect of the missile blitz against Ukraine is the only officer who had killed people in Moscow during the 1991 coup.
So a guy who wasn't completely useless?
Never in my life I even heard about "Guy Verhofstadt". I just checked out and he's not even an American, much less a Neocon brand of Republicans. It seems that the word "neocon" is for you what "nazi" is for American libs and Russian commies.
America isn't starving, and when America was starving they weren't a food exporter.
Palestinians are never pacified, they're always super agitated about America. If they starved to death without (American) food they would be calmer.
They don't make almost any their own food (especially in Gaza which is all urban, and it used to be a small town before they multiplied since 1956) and they don't export anything. They're also not being fed by their supposed protectors the Iranians, who had the IRG's very own SCIRI militias in Iraq ethnically cleansed the Palestinians and no one cared. (I mean, I did care more than an average Muslim or even the other Palestinians, and Palestinians are almost as good as oppressing each other as they're being oppressed by other Arabs who are ridicalously ruthless against them.)
Yanuk was from Donetsk, and yet he fled to Moscow. Hm.
The new Ukrainian government was formed by the existing parliament. Unlike the case of the Mongol style tyranny in Moscow, there were no tank units ready for him to shoot up the parliament just because the deputies wanted him out of power.
He was never "useless", he was always ready to commit any crime anywhere. In Moscow, in Syria, in Ukraine, anything anywhere. This is how he made his career.
America isn't starving, and when America was starving they weren't a food exporter.
Curious response. Explain to me how 'food exports' in order to buy influence, which you know full well is happening, is actually altruism.
Palestinians are never pacified, they're always super agitated about America. If they starved to death without (American) food they would be calmer.
Unlikely. People revolt when they are starving, especially when living in close proximity to an oasis in the desert.
Yanuk was from Donetsk, and yet he fled to Moscow. Hm.
I'm not sure you'd flee to a war zone that would only reinforce the inclination of the government to treat its own alleged citizens as 'terrorists'.
The new Ukrainian government was formed by the existing parliament.
While armed gangs were walking through it. Even in ancient Rome any law that was carried by force (per vim) was invalid.
Unlike the case of the Mongol style tyranny in Moscow, there were no tank units ready for him to shoot up the parliament just because the deputies wanted him out of power.
You mean the Mongol style tyranny of the American friend Boris Yeltsin? I agree he was bad, because he ruined his country. The Americans never seemed to think that, because he was a useless drunk who would let him get away with everything.
He was never "useless", he was always ready to commit any crime anywhere. In Moscow, in Syria, in Ukraine, anything anywhere. This is how he made his career.
The others were, because they apparently did nothing to uphold the government of the August coup leaders. In retrospect, it would probably have been much better if they had succeeded, and then gradually reformed the state instead of driving it off a cliff like Gorbachev and Yeltsin did.
It's in no way a lie, but then again, you call everything that does not fit your US-worshiping ways a 'lie'. Hell, you claimed that the US was so caring and tender and worried about people in Africa starving.
Any time now you will be calling Donald Rumsfeld's visits to Iraq a lie.
Why was she determining who the next PM of "Ukraine" would be? Why was she involved to begin with?
You know full well that Yanuk was not a puppet, that he was interested in what was good for Yanuk and not Russia. But thanks for admitting that the EU was working to mount a coup there.
What a joke. Clinton was an anti-Russia hawk.
As were Guy Verhofstadt and John McCain. The worst of the neocons.
Show me the people who don't go full retard on this issue. I assume the people who swallow American propaganda hook, line and sinker?
Why are you even surprised at all, much less somehow disbelieving? It's not new, with all the American humanitarian aid to Africa (more than any other country), and even leading the UN armed intervention to end the starvation in Somalia (when the warlords in Mogadishu were stealing the aid going to the countryside).
The Americans even feed the Palestinians, who obsessively hate the literal hand that feeds them. ("Zio Don" wanted to end it lol)
Rumsfeld visits Iraq was just like She-Clinton cackling with Lavrov. Fortunately they dropped this shit in both cases.
Not she, but Yanuk. It's what he proposed. Publicly. It wasn't even any secret. It was rejected after considerations. You can easily find news articles about it all.
Yanuk became a puppet at that moment, which is why he followed on the idiotic order from Russia to have the Maidan shot up to pacify the unrest. It worked for Russian regime in 1993 to just massacre uppity citizens (and a lot of random bystanders) in the streets of Moscow but it's not Russia.
Btw his own former mentor Kuchma is an Ukrainian patriot.
Not the EU but us, and not a coup but a revolution. The military stayed in the barracks all the time and took no sides.
Again, unlike in Russia. And the architect of the missile blitz against Ukraine is the only officer who had killed people in Moscow during the 1991 coup.
Never in my life I even heard about "Guy Verhofstadt". I just checked out and he's not even an American, much less a Neocon brand of Republicans. It seems that the word "neocon" is for you what "nazi" is for American libs and Russian commies.
Slow tap... it's called influence buying. You are smart enough to know what "foreign aid" is, so don't pretend to be dumb. Or are you going to tell me that the food exports of the USSR from its own starving citizens to its satellites in the aftermath of WW2 were also "humanitarian"?
I mean, I'm pro-Israel, but given the fact that the Americans support Israel rather strongly, they were not exactly wrong to hate the Americans. The Americans feed them so that they will remain pacified. Panem et circensis, member?
Do you have any proof of any such 'order from Russia'? What's more, you know full well that there is controversy about who shot at those Maidan protesters.
You mean when the American-backed Yeltsin had tanks shoot at the Supreme Soviet after it voted to impeach him, and the Americans then wrote a new constitution for Russia which made the situation even worse (though it ironically paved the way for Putin)?
Also a murderer. Note that Kuchma did manage to play nice and not get invaded, which cannot be said of the Western puppets who have ruled Ukraine since 1994.
BTW, Yanukovich was from Donetsk, so he was Donbas patriot.
When an armed mob takes over the government, that's a coup, whether or not "the military" is involved.
So a guy who wasn't completely useless?
How can you not have heard of that vile creep?
America isn't starving, and when America was starving they weren't a food exporter.
Palestinians are never pacified, they're always super agitated about America. If they starved to death without (American) food they would be calmer.
They don't make almost any their own food (especially in Gaza which is all urban, and it used to be a small town before they multiplied since 1956) and they don't export anything. They're also not being fed by their supposed protectors the Iranians, who had the IRG's very own SCIRI militias in Iraq ethnically cleansed the Palestinians and no one cared. (I mean, I did care more than an average Muslim or even the other Palestinians, and Palestinians are almost as good as oppressing each other as they're being oppressed by other Arabs who are ridicalously ruthless against them.)
Yanuk was from Donetsk, and yet he fled to Moscow. Hm.
The new Ukrainian government was formed by the existing parliament. Unlike the case of the Mongol style tyranny in Moscow, there were no tank units ready for him to shoot up the parliament just because the deputies wanted him out of power.
He was never "useless", he was always ready to commit any crime anywhere. In Moscow, in Syria, in Ukraine, anything anywhere. This is how he made his career.
Curious response. Explain to me how 'food exports' in order to buy influence, which you know full well is happening, is actually altruism.
Unlikely. People revolt when they are starving, especially when living in close proximity to an oasis in the desert.
I'm not sure you'd flee to a war zone that would only reinforce the inclination of the government to treat its own alleged citizens as 'terrorists'.
While armed gangs were walking through it. Even in ancient Rome any law that was carried by force (per vim) was invalid.
You mean the Mongol style tyranny of the American friend Boris Yeltsin? I agree he was bad, because he ruined his country. The Americans never seemed to think that, because he was a useless drunk who would let him get away with everything.
The others were, because they apparently did nothing to uphold the government of the August coup leaders. In retrospect, it would probably have been much better if they had succeeded, and then gradually reformed the state instead of driving it off a cliff like Gorbachev and Yeltsin did.