The establishment left seems to have suddenly come to the conclusion that the tranny hill is the one they'll die on if they try to hold it.
I really thought they'd never abandon it. The trans thing always seemed crucial to their war on individualism, families and identity, but it seems they've realized that the resistance to it is so strong it threatens to undermine the rest of their social engineering project.
The halfway intelligent ones have realized it's a losing battle and they need to back off.
The radicalized zealots still want all gas no brakes. So far, the zealots have been the dominant faction politically, with the remainder cowering in fear.
It's going to be fun to watch them eat each other. The radicalized zealots aren't just going to let this go. Libtards are indoctrinated as children to see the civil rights movement as the most virtuous thing a human can do, so each new generation of libtards needs to invent their own version of it to LARP out, and they're at the bottom of the barrel now with trannies.
"The radicalized zealots still want all gas no brakes. So far, the zealots have been the dominant faction politically, with the remainder cowering in fear." It is really insane. The only people I see regularly making death threats online are trans people. Just straight up saying they will murder someone for joking they are "super straight" or will play harry potter game, or suggesting a man is indeed a man. I see presumably teens on instagram freaking out that making fun of some insane person is "transphobic." It's hilarious that people are so fervent about one of the biggest psyops in history. I would feel bad for them if they weren't so virulent. They all seem to be deeply disturbed, sad people.
They won't abandon it. They'll just scale back its public visibility like it used to be. It was festering in the US since WWII era, and hardly anyone was paying attention.
They won the gay equality fight by appealing to (old definition) liberal values and arguments. I don’t even mind that they won it, I care not what adults do to each other. But then they thought the next step was to convince people to abandon liberalism and replace it with their non-evidence-based Marxist ways of thinking, all this progressive stack, lived experience, sit quietly and listen white boy bullshit. You can do that if the “substrate” by which you try to push that stuff through is something most people already agree about: racism bad, women equal, let gay people be gay, maybe we weren’t very nice to the Indians, etc. That’s why it feels like they’re trying to rehash old battles, because they aren’t really so much trying to convince us that we’re racist (etc.) but using a divisive issue like race relations as a “substrate” to change HOW we think (or don’t think, I’d say is more accurate).
But they didn’t count on having to fight for trans acceptance or that trans/non-binary bullshit would suddenly become trendy. The problem with trans activism done through an illiberal lens or framework is that they never laid the foundation for trans acceptance through a liberal argument that most people could come to an agreement by. Unlike the other identity groups, there was no trans liberation before, argued for on lines of “don’t we deserve these rights you have” or “hey we’re just people too.” Instead, it’s all been illiberal arguments: do what we say or you’re LITERALLY KILLING US, gender is only ASSIGNED AT BIRTH, you don’t know until you get older… total bullshit claims they can’t prove with evidence (liberal method) so the have to just demand we accept them or else we need to be re-educated (illiberal method).
By demanding trans acceptance using an illiberal framework, they’re asking people to do two new things at once, not just one like CRT does, for example. Even people who think of themselves as being quite progressive in a slightly older sense (so pre-Trump announcing his run perhaps) don’t really buy all the trans, non-binary, faegender, they/them bullshit. So I suspect the establishment is pumping the brakes on that stuff just a bit, because if ordinary people start going “no, hang on, that’s a man in a skirt,” it’s easy for them to then ask, “and hey, why do you get to tell me what to think and yell at me if I have questions,” and then “and what do you mean, showing up on time is white supremacy,” etc etc and the whole damn thing comes unraveled.
This is all just one man’s hypothesis, but I think this is close to what they’re thinking. They need to pull back the reins on the trans thing and get illiberal systems of (non-) thought planted firmly in the Western conscious first, and then maybe after that’s done they can bring the trans along to acceptance, since a illiberal society will accept whatever you tell them to accept. They probably now wish they’d held off on the illiberalism for a decade so they could do the trans fight under the old rules, but entitled students at Evergreen and Yale opened the Marxist jar earlier than the Marxists might have liked (in retrospect), and so they have to make strategic decisions.
The establishment left seems to have suddenly come to the conclusion that the tranny hill is the one they'll die on if they try to hold it.
I really thought they'd never abandon it. The trans thing always seemed crucial to their war on individualism, families and identity, but it seems they've realized that the resistance to it is so strong it threatens to undermine the rest of their social engineering project.
The halfway intelligent ones have realized it's a losing battle and they need to back off.
The radicalized zealots still want all gas no brakes. So far, the zealots have been the dominant faction politically, with the remainder cowering in fear.
It's going to be fun to watch them eat each other. The radicalized zealots aren't just going to let this go. Libtards are indoctrinated as children to see the civil rights movement as the most virtuous thing a human can do, so each new generation of libtards needs to invent their own version of it to LARP out, and they're at the bottom of the barrel now with trannies.
"The radicalized zealots still want all gas no brakes. So far, the zealots have been the dominant faction politically, with the remainder cowering in fear." It is really insane. The only people I see regularly making death threats online are trans people. Just straight up saying they will murder someone for joking they are "super straight" or will play harry potter game, or suggesting a man is indeed a man. I see presumably teens on instagram freaking out that making fun of some insane person is "transphobic." It's hilarious that people are so fervent about one of the biggest psyops in history. I would feel bad for them if they weren't so virulent. They all seem to be deeply disturbed, sad people.
well, it's true that all those people you're seeing are mentally ill.
They won't abandon it. They'll just scale back its public visibility like it used to be. It was festering in the US since WWII era, and hardly anyone was paying attention.
I think its really a case of seeing that pushed too hard too early and are pulling back to not shoot their "credibility" out the window just yet.
The same way the gay thing had to take a backseat in the for a while before the late Bush/Obama era it blew up again and succeeded better than before.
They won the gay equality fight by appealing to (old definition) liberal values and arguments. I don’t even mind that they won it, I care not what adults do to each other. But then they thought the next step was to convince people to abandon liberalism and replace it with their non-evidence-based Marxist ways of thinking, all this progressive stack, lived experience, sit quietly and listen white boy bullshit. You can do that if the “substrate” by which you try to push that stuff through is something most people already agree about: racism bad, women equal, let gay people be gay, maybe we weren’t very nice to the Indians, etc. That’s why it feels like they’re trying to rehash old battles, because they aren’t really so much trying to convince us that we’re racist (etc.) but using a divisive issue like race relations as a “substrate” to change HOW we think (or don’t think, I’d say is more accurate).
But they didn’t count on having to fight for trans acceptance or that trans/non-binary bullshit would suddenly become trendy. The problem with trans activism done through an illiberal lens or framework is that they never laid the foundation for trans acceptance through a liberal argument that most people could come to an agreement by. Unlike the other identity groups, there was no trans liberation before, argued for on lines of “don’t we deserve these rights you have” or “hey we’re just people too.” Instead, it’s all been illiberal arguments: do what we say or you’re LITERALLY KILLING US, gender is only ASSIGNED AT BIRTH, you don’t know until you get older… total bullshit claims they can’t prove with evidence (liberal method) so the have to just demand we accept them or else we need to be re-educated (illiberal method).
By demanding trans acceptance using an illiberal framework, they’re asking people to do two new things at once, not just one like CRT does, for example. Even people who think of themselves as being quite progressive in a slightly older sense (so pre-Trump announcing his run perhaps) don’t really buy all the trans, non-binary, faegender, they/them bullshit. So I suspect the establishment is pumping the brakes on that stuff just a bit, because if ordinary people start going “no, hang on, that’s a man in a skirt,” it’s easy for them to then ask, “and hey, why do you get to tell me what to think and yell at me if I have questions,” and then “and what do you mean, showing up on time is white supremacy,” etc etc and the whole damn thing comes unraveled.
This is all just one man’s hypothesis, but I think this is close to what they’re thinking. They need to pull back the reins on the trans thing and get illiberal systems of (non-) thought planted firmly in the Western conscious first, and then maybe after that’s done they can bring the trans along to acceptance, since a illiberal society will accept whatever you tell them to accept. They probably now wish they’d held off on the illiberalism for a decade so they could do the trans fight under the old rules, but entitled students at Evergreen and Yale opened the Marxist jar earlier than the Marxists might have liked (in retrospect), and so they have to make strategic decisions.
The early Bush years were peak liberalism before the economic crash caused people to shout for regulation again.
It is such an absurdly imppossible concept, that they have to retreat.