I know we have some people here that go 'Trump is playing 4d chess, he's the one we need in charge right now' but I got a theory bouncing in my head for why this is happening.
I think there may be people using Trump to goad Desantis into running in 2024 to create another situation where Trump would act as a spoiler candidate, dividing the vote between Republicans so the Dems win. Happened to give Woodrow Wilson the win and can be argued that's how Bush Sr lost but that's cause he raised taxes.
Trump won't back down so even if he lost nomination, I'm 90% sure he'd run independently anyway. Best thing to do is focus on states, house and possibly senate to make it a lame duck president
If Trump loses the nomination and actually becomes a spoiler 3rd party candidate and gifts the Dems 2024, he destroys his legacy completely.
He will be hated by everyone on the right who is not a mindless Trump sycophant.
The Dems would easily be able to indict Trump in 2025 without fear of backlash and most right wing voters would be okay with it.
Right now I just want Trump to retire.
If he is petty and narcissistic enough to doom us to 4 more years of Dem rule over his stupid ego, I will have no sympathy for him when the left will likely railroad him in court.
Which, quite frankly, is why I don’t think he would run 3rd party. We may have differing attitudes toward Trumps chances in 2024 (not that I think they are great, just better than you do, and still lean DeSantis). But I think we can both agree that Trump is obsessed with ego and image. If he ran 3rd party and spoiled the vote, all but his most hardcore supporters would turn on him and his legacy would be forever ruined.
Better to sit in the background, rage about how “The RNC totally screwed me for that RINO!” While DeSantis just starts repeating all of the steps he used to turn Florida from a swing state to solid red.
Will his anger in losing the nomination override any sense of rationality he possesses?
I suppose that that comes down to what you feel of Trumps personality. For my money, I do think he would resist the urge. Yes, he is driven by ego and has done bizarre shit because of it. But Ego is a lot easier to read than people give it credit for, and the only way I see him pulling something like that would be if he had some trick up his sleeve to make it work.
Being a loser, who then causes even bigger losing to someone a lot of his supports actually have respect for, would destroy him, which would bruise his ego a whole lot more than just losing and then fuming in the corner. Especially if he can turn it into something that he thinks he can win on ("DeSantis was going to be a weak RINO, but I helped pull him in a more based direction folks!")
I know we have some people here that go 'Trump is playing 4d chess, he's the one we need in charge right now' but I got a theory bouncing in my head for why this is happening.
I think there may be people using Trump to goad Desantis into running in 2024 to create another situation where Trump would act as a spoiler candidate, dividing the vote between Republicans so the Dems win. Happened to give Woodrow Wilson the win and can be argued that's how Bush Sr lost but that's cause he raised taxes.
Trump won't back down so even if he lost nomination, I'm 90% sure he'd run independently anyway. Best thing to do is focus on states, house and possibly senate to make it a lame duck president
If Trump loses the nomination and actually becomes a spoiler 3rd party candidate and gifts the Dems 2024, he destroys his legacy completely.
He will be hated by everyone on the right who is not a mindless Trump sycophant.
The Dems would easily be able to indict Trump in 2025 without fear of backlash and most right wing voters would be okay with it.
Right now I just want Trump to retire.
If he is petty and narcissistic enough to doom us to 4 more years of Dem rule over his stupid ego, I will have no sympathy for him when the left will likely railroad him in court.
Which, quite frankly, is why I don’t think he would run 3rd party. We may have differing attitudes toward Trumps chances in 2024 (not that I think they are great, just better than you do, and still lean DeSantis). But I think we can both agree that Trump is obsessed with ego and image. If he ran 3rd party and spoiled the vote, all but his most hardcore supporters would turn on him and his legacy would be forever ruined.
Better to sit in the background, rage about how “The RNC totally screwed me for that RINO!” While DeSantis just starts repeating all of the steps he used to turn Florida from a swing state to solid red.
Seems to me that he's only catering to his most hardcore supporters. Besides, Trump isn't exactly a rational actor.
The question to consider is this?
Will his anger in losing the nomination override any sense of rationality he possesses?
I hope he wouldn't go full retard but the Trump we see in his 2024 campaign is way dumber than the Trump of 2016 or even the Trump of 2020.
In the last two years, he has gotten very unhinged.
In 2016, he was the only GOP who would not promise to back the nominee if he lost. Not exactly out of character.
I suppose that that comes down to what you feel of Trumps personality. For my money, I do think he would resist the urge. Yes, he is driven by ego and has done bizarre shit because of it. But Ego is a lot easier to read than people give it credit for, and the only way I see him pulling something like that would be if he had some trick up his sleeve to make it work.
Being a loser, who then causes even bigger losing to someone a lot of his supports actually have respect for, would destroy him, which would bruise his ego a whole lot more than just losing and then fuming in the corner. Especially if he can turn it into something that he thinks he can win on ("DeSantis was going to be a weak RINO, but I helped pull him in a more based direction folks!")