LOL you think I sound like a stormfag? I fight with them all the time on here
Yes, I don't think you actually are a Stormfag. Just some of the stuff you say at times, like "neocons were mostly Jews who were trying to wage wars for Israel".
However, I also favorably link to Ben Shapiro, who triggers the hell out of the stormfag types on here.
Because he actually accomplished something for the right, unlike those people.
just that left wing atheistic jews tend to be very overrepresented in certain areas like the entertainment industry and media.
No lie there.
Obviously I'm not a jew, I'm Christian, specially eastern orthodox.
Very based. When I told a few Muricans that I am non-practicing Orthodox, they for some reason thought that meant Jewish.
"neocons were mostly Jews who were trying to wage wars for Israel".
It's true, though. If you look up the prominent "neocons", it's these guys: "Prominent neoconservatives in the George W. Bush administration included Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer."
Paul Wolfowitz was born in Brooklyn, New York, into a Polish Jewish immigrant family
Elliott Abrams was born into a Jewish family[8] in New York in 1948.
Perle was born in New York City, New York, the son of Jewish parents,[7][8] Martha Gloria and Jack Harold Perle.
And I disagree with Bremer. He wasn't a neocon intellectual. If you look at Bremer's wiki page, it doesn't even mention neoconservatism. He was just following admin policy, which was being driven by the above neocons.
I don't shy away from recognizing and naming the jew when it's true. When there is an ideological group that is overwhelmingly jews, I'm not going to be afraid to call that out because I'm worried about being labelled antisemetic. Public discourse ought to be based on truth, and when jewish intellectuals dominate a certain group, it's 100% okay to point that out and question whether that group is aligned with the interests of the United States primarily, or with Israel.
I like Ben Shapiro, but he absolutely has divided loyalties. He shills for Israel constantly, and he engages in identity politics aggressively when it is to benefit his fellow jews. Like he spent probably half an hour recently just ranting about Ilhan Omar, who isn't really more antisemetic than pretty much any other Muslim. She's being kicked off of committees purely to bow down to the jewish lobby. From a political perspective, if Republicans think they can court the jewish vote, then sure, go for it, but nobody is trying to court my vote. Nobody else has such a powerful interest group despite being only 2% of the population. I don't blame Shapiro for advocating for his tribe, but that's a tribe I don't share, and so that divides us. I was raised as an American being taught that tribalism is bad and that America is a "melting pot" where we all join together as Americans, blind to race and religion.
Because he actually accomplished something for the right, unlike those people.
The people on the fringe ends of the bell curve of politics have basically no impact because nobody listens to them (unless they become actual terrorists or something) and they tend to hate the highly effective and less fringe mainstream types who are actually moving the ball for the Right. Actually the Democrats have done a phenomenal job of using the Right's fringe as a weapon against the Right, so these fringe types actually help the Left more than anything.
Very based. When I told a few Muricans that I am non-practicing Orthodox, they for some reason thought that meant Jewish.
Most Americans have no clue what Eastern Orthodox Christianity is. They hear "orthodox" and think "orthodox" jew, since they're more visible and known.
It's true, though. If you look up the prominent "neocons", it's these guys: "Prominent neoconservatives in the George W. Bush administration included Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer."
That conveniently ignores Rumsfeld and Cheney. But alright.
If you look at Bremer's wiki page
Dude, cut that out.
When there is an ideological group that is overwhelmingly jews, I'm not going to be afraid to call that out because I'm worried about being labelled antisemetic. Public discourse ought to be based on truth, and when jewish intellectuals dominate a certain group, it's 100% okay to point that out and question whether that group is aligned with the interests of the United States primarily, or with Israel.
Not sure why there should be questions about whether someone's interests align with Israel simply because they are Jewish.
Like he spent probably half an hour recently just ranting about Ilhan Omar, who isn't really more antisemetic than pretty much any other Muslim
Much less so, in fact.
I was raised as an American being taught that tribalism is bad and that America is a "melting pot" where we all join together as Americans, blind to race and religion.
It seems less like that now than ever, unfortunately, because I do regard it as a nice ideal.
The people on the fringe ends of the bell curve of politics have basically no impact because nobody listens to them (unless they become actual terrorists or something) and they tend to hate the highly effective and less fringe mainstream types who are actually moving the ball for the Right. Actually the Democrats have done a phenomenal job of using the Right's fringe as a weapon against the Right, so these fringe types actually help the Left more than anything.
I've never figured it out. If you completely purge the fringes, then they will just pretend that you are the fringe. So my attitude is: I like it if there are visible Stormfags, because while they will try to smear you with their views, it also sets you apart rather clearly from them.
Not sure why there should be questions about whether someone's interests align with Israel simply because they are Jewish.
Because Israel is a jewish ethnostate. Not all jews actually support Israel, in particularly the atheistic jews, but the "neocon" ones did: "Wolfowitz demonstrated himself to be one of the strongest supporters of Israel in the Reagan administration."
It seems less like that now than ever, unfortunately, because I do regard it as a nice ideal.
Yes, because the liberal attitude towards assimilation is that it means "cultural genocide by Hwhite people". Liberals want to divide us and have everyone who isn't a straight white male, gang up on and tear down straight white males. Part of that is a huge push to attack and demean whiteness. The liberals also hate America, and traditional American values (if you ask a lib about American history, they think it was nothing but slavery and jim crow) and they associate everything they hate with whiteness.
I've never figured it out. If you completely purge the fringes, then they will just pretend that you are the fringe.
They'll try, but they will fail. It's a lot harder for the lib media to attack DeSantis than Trump, because truth and reality aren't on their side. Sure, they'll try, but they'll fail. The more you allow fringe types to be in your group, the more you embrace a weakness that can be exploited by your enemies. So you do need to disown and ostracize the extremists.
However, we have a whole war being waged over the Overton Window now, and the Right is losing. So to some extent we need to dig in and say "this is not extremism, this is within the acceptable range of discourse" about a much broader range of views than what is allowed now.
Because Israel is a jewish ethnostate. Not all jews actually support Israel, in particularly the atheistic jews, but the "neocon" ones did: "Wolfowitz demonstrated himself to be one of the strongest supporters of Israel in the Reagan administration."
It isn't. Israel has Arabs, white Jews, brown Jews and even black ones.
And Wolfowitz supporting Israel does not exactly make him an exception in the US, where nearly everyone does.
They'll try, but they will fail. It's a lot harder for the lib media to attack DeSantis than Trump, because truth and reality aren't on their side.
Truth and reality matter nothing though. You can persuade people of literally anything.
The more you allow fringe types to be in your group, the more you embrace a weakness that can be exploited by your enemies. So you do need to disown and ostracize the extremists.
Disown, yes. But it's good that they are there. If you are the farthest right in the GOP, they will call you a far-right fascist racist. However, if there are Stormfags, then you will always look good in comparison. They extend the Overton Window.
So to some extent we need to dig in and say "this is not extremism, this is within the acceptable range of discourse" about a much broader range of views than what is allowed now.
That does not work though. Salami-slicing will prevail over that.
Yes, I don't think you actually are a Stormfag. Just some of the stuff you say at times, like "neocons were mostly Jews who were trying to wage wars for Israel".
Because he actually accomplished something for the right, unlike those people.
No lie there.
Very based. When I told a few Muricans that I am non-practicing Orthodox, they for some reason thought that meant Jewish.
It's true, though. If you look up the prominent "neocons", it's these guys: "Prominent neoconservatives in the George W. Bush administration included Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer."
Paul Wolfowitz was born in Brooklyn, New York, into a Polish Jewish immigrant family
Elliott Abrams was born into a Jewish family[8] in New York in 1948.
Perle was born in New York City, New York, the son of Jewish parents,[7][8] Martha Gloria and Jack Harold Perle.
And I disagree with Bremer. He wasn't a neocon intellectual. If you look at Bremer's wiki page, it doesn't even mention neoconservatism. He was just following admin policy, which was being driven by the above neocons.
I don't shy away from recognizing and naming the jew when it's true. When there is an ideological group that is overwhelmingly jews, I'm not going to be afraid to call that out because I'm worried about being labelled antisemetic. Public discourse ought to be based on truth, and when jewish intellectuals dominate a certain group, it's 100% okay to point that out and question whether that group is aligned with the interests of the United States primarily, or with Israel.
I like Ben Shapiro, but he absolutely has divided loyalties. He shills for Israel constantly, and he engages in identity politics aggressively when it is to benefit his fellow jews. Like he spent probably half an hour recently just ranting about Ilhan Omar, who isn't really more antisemetic than pretty much any other Muslim. She's being kicked off of committees purely to bow down to the jewish lobby. From a political perspective, if Republicans think they can court the jewish vote, then sure, go for it, but nobody is trying to court my vote. Nobody else has such a powerful interest group despite being only 2% of the population. I don't blame Shapiro for advocating for his tribe, but that's a tribe I don't share, and so that divides us. I was raised as an American being taught that tribalism is bad and that America is a "melting pot" where we all join together as Americans, blind to race and religion.
The people on the fringe ends of the bell curve of politics have basically no impact because nobody listens to them (unless they become actual terrorists or something) and they tend to hate the highly effective and less fringe mainstream types who are actually moving the ball for the Right. Actually the Democrats have done a phenomenal job of using the Right's fringe as a weapon against the Right, so these fringe types actually help the Left more than anything.
Most Americans have no clue what Eastern Orthodox Christianity is. They hear "orthodox" and think "orthodox" jew, since they're more visible and known.
That conveniently ignores Rumsfeld and Cheney. But alright.
Dude, cut that out.
Not sure why there should be questions about whether someone's interests align with Israel simply because they are Jewish.
Much less so, in fact.
It seems less like that now than ever, unfortunately, because I do regard it as a nice ideal.
I've never figured it out. If you completely purge the fringes, then they will just pretend that you are the fringe. So my attitude is: I like it if there are visible Stormfags, because while they will try to smear you with their views, it also sets you apart rather clearly from them.
Because Israel is a jewish ethnostate. Not all jews actually support Israel, in particularly the atheistic jews, but the "neocon" ones did: "Wolfowitz demonstrated himself to be one of the strongest supporters of Israel in the Reagan administration."
Yes, because the liberal attitude towards assimilation is that it means "cultural genocide by Hwhite people". Liberals want to divide us and have everyone who isn't a straight white male, gang up on and tear down straight white males. Part of that is a huge push to attack and demean whiteness. The liberals also hate America, and traditional American values (if you ask a lib about American history, they think it was nothing but slavery and jim crow) and they associate everything they hate with whiteness.
They'll try, but they will fail. It's a lot harder for the lib media to attack DeSantis than Trump, because truth and reality aren't on their side. Sure, they'll try, but they'll fail. The more you allow fringe types to be in your group, the more you embrace a weakness that can be exploited by your enemies. So you do need to disown and ostracize the extremists.
However, we have a whole war being waged over the Overton Window now, and the Right is losing. So to some extent we need to dig in and say "this is not extremism, this is within the acceptable range of discourse" about a much broader range of views than what is allowed now.
It isn't. Israel has Arabs, white Jews, brown Jews and even black ones.
And Wolfowitz supporting Israel does not exactly make him an exception in the US, where nearly everyone does.
Truth and reality matter nothing though. You can persuade people of literally anything.
Disown, yes. But it's good that they are there. If you are the farthest right in the GOP, they will call you a far-right fascist racist. However, if there are Stormfags, then you will always look good in comparison. They extend the Overton Window.
That does not work though. Salami-slicing will prevail over that.