This guy hit the nail on the head in regards to this whole AI art kerfuffle.
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He really doesn't, he has disposable a normie non-opinion like the rest of you. Real question is what the fuck is this investment you clowns have in this. I doubt you have to search far and wide to stick it to the libs, why the fuck does this consist 5 different threads? Why must this have countless threads on /pol/? Why, months before any of this picked up, were there dozens upon dozens of demoralization threads in /ic/? I imagine it is completely flooded now. Why were known infiltrators on ConsumeProduct hyping this up out of nowhere? None of you gave a shit about art before any of this for me to believe that any of you are this invested to keep bringing it up where no one is asking for your help or your well-wishes. It almost seems to come out of nowhere that a lot of you suspiciously infrequent posters and unfamiliar names are upset about artists protecting themselves where there is no imperative at all to feel anything but complete ambivalence, maybe a shrug or a "ha" at worst. Who thrives off fomenting these aggravations and the subsequent demoralization? Who benefits most from artists hanging their head in a frump and just giving their art out to be used for free? Who created stable diffusion?
(Watch a bunch of sleepers swarm this post taking disproportionate personal offense like I just suggested selling drugs to the community. I have said far more controversial things, but this one seems to be the hot button for some reason... hmmm?!)
That's right, these motherfuckers wear programmer socks. Trannies. This is their modus operandi, they are the bulk of programmers behind bots in general, it is fucking discord trannies pushing this agenda. They're just like the ones who have a monopoly over the art world in general except they cut their psyop teeth on /r9k/ and /g/, and now they hold the keys to the citadel. This has a lot more implications for entry level jobs and up the pipeline than you might think as work revolves around money, industries revolve around money; which is to say if you were previously an artist, you're now a turd polisher with zero creative input even at higher levels and the entry point will be completely destroyed, making actual artists drop off and turning commercial art into another adult daycare with no possibility of extra-vocational reach, since the other fields of illustration will no doubt be bastardized aswell. On a widespread level quality doesn't matter as much as you'd suspect and you basically just gave complete control to the hands of even worse LEFTIES than who you think you're sticking it to, with complete and meticulous control over the parameters of creative generation and it will infect everything they touch, which is the seed of full societal artistic control down to the line of code. To even compete on a cultural level, as say a company, you will have to use AI by their design AND in accordance with ESG scores, nothing built from the ground up by anyone even slightly right leaning will take off. You will drown in a world of aesthetic dogshit because it is cheaper, under their complete political control because it is cheaper. That isn't to mention the bigger picture of totalitarian encroachment that we've seen so far. The bunker pinko contingent chose to appropriate art because of its industry-wide naivety and lack of protection.
The artists bemoan the non-consentual sampling of their work, but the reality is much more grave and you're cheering for it. But hey, atleast you were able to make pepe the frog from classical pieces for a little bit.
Modern architecture, but more pervasive.
It's not like modern art is worth saving or anything. Cartoons and video games both look horrid in comparison to their predecessors.
99% agreed. But there's a baby drowning in that bathwater
Your argument completely fails because you can still draw whatever the hell you want, AI around or not.
HANDSHAKE.
Not only handshake. His account is TWO HOURS OLD.
He's a SPY.
A spy for whom? At the expense of whom? I have seen people come here with brand new accounts trying to seed things into the zeitgeist by volume, with almost overt incentive, which seems to be a lot more line with this current topical fixation on AI and getting pissy at artists for defending themselves - all I've offered is argumentation on the basis of personal experience and I again, point to the testimony of my previous account wherein which I offer commentary on a broad set of topics not just this one, where my contributions are often well regarded. Every single one of my points align with pinpoint accuity down to my obssessive compulsive edits.
u/greenmfkerfrmtenesee/
You are incredibly naive.
Not if there is an industry wide ripple affect destroying its commercial viability, the incentive to get good is then diminished ("talent" doesn't not make up for consistency and study), people who previously aspired have their lives swallowed and any residual desire for personal progress bogged down to a halt. Independently, good luck competing with algorithmically perfected turnout - some people out there already don't even get seen despite being pretty damn good, especially if they're a bit slower to post or live in an inopportune timezone. Becoming a hobbyist is an option, but in relation to the ecosystem that I previously described that is not preferable for a higher societal reverence for aesthetic and frankly, I don't like the idea of my profession being ripped away from me, and really the whole art world being torn asunder because some commie trannies decided to just take it.
I'm no handshake, I am a few people - namely and recently u/greenmfkerfrmtenesee/, however I don't remember my password so fuck that.
Handshake.
Countless jobs throughout history have been obsoleted by technology. The sour grapes from the artists are just particularly sweet because they never thought it would happen to them.
As far as your personal stake in the profession is concerned, some people love journalism, too. They should still have enough self-awareness to understand why the profession is now widely despised. The radical leftist art industry is similarly obnoxious. You know why.
The relentless gatekeeping that has been done on a higher level is unforgivable, it kept me blackballed for years. I have more reasons to hate the industry than anyone, but I can't condemn an artist for wanting to protect themselves. Not all of them are radical leftists either.
No one could have anticipated it, however I don't think this renders the artist obsolete in a very constructive way or in a way that betters our condition as the politically dissident right, it just further ingratiates culture to an even more malignant set of gatekeepers.
AI is gonna have two effects - it's going to put unoriginal artists out of business, and it'll give the powers that shouldn't be an unfathomable force multiplier in propaganda and misinfo.
you're right that the former is hardly important or indeed funny anymore when we are faced with the latter. these are not going to be pretty times. i fear the worst of the kali-yuga will rear its ugly head soon.
Indeed.
I wish it were the case that only unoriginal artists would be affected, but there are so many fragile contingencies that even the better among us with their own IPs will have their legs kicked out from under them. Then comes a deluge of AI art that completely drowns their reach.
I've been around for a long time, and I have seen what even small changes does to art as a commercial organism. From the Conceptart.org days onward into the advent of social media, changing so many faces with how one makes their living from their cultivated skillset. It used to be a meritocracy, now I am not so sure.
Sometimes I wish it would fall - even right now, if you don't include your pronouns that's a net loss; follow Rush Limbaugh and Wizards of the Coast is closed off to you - fledgling artists, even now, don't get the mentorship they need unless they are groomed because those jobs place you under the wing of the best in the industry so it's likely we're in the last days of what might be considered skillful or original.
You just described why the industry should burn to the ground. I’m here for it.
https://www.mentalhealth.gov/get-help/immediate-help
Smells like axewound in here.
Most posters here are every bit as retarded as the average redditor, they just believe something different. I sense an inferiority complex among some as well, and occasionally a superiority complex in others. I've seen plenty of "science" promoted here as well that may as well have come from the same place that the blue/green/yellow stuff at this one mall's restroom that hasn't been cleaned since 1984 came from.
And this is putting it very simply. I've learned to lower my expectations somewhat, but it is clear that this is going to be more of a process than a one and done thing.
I’m coming at this from the perspective of someone who studied art, practiced art, and spent some time in the industry.
There is probably no industry so thoroughly pozzed, or so completely saturated with absolute leftist demons, as the art industry. I do take pleasure in watching them squirm. It turns out that automation and AI are coming for us all. I’m not going to waste one ounce of my sympathy on the people who actually deserve oblivion.