Cameron clearly doesn't know what he's talking about if he's saying this. The whole reason people cared about the MCU was because it had interesting heroes with compelling journeys (before it went woke, anyway). You can't just feed people slop and expect your movies to succeed, they need more than that.
Then again, Cameron lost his credibility a long time ago. He called Terminator: Dark Fate the true sequel to Terminator 2 even though that movie gave John Connor the Luke Skywalker treatment.
I think there's little doubt that Avatar 2 (and the other sequels that for some godforsaken reason he's making) will not only be worse than the first movie, but they'll also be massive financial failures.
They could be just as big as the first movie and still be financial failures. Cameron has already admitted that this movie needs to make almost $2 BILLION...JUST TO BREAK EVEN!! And considering the metrics coming in are that it had a strong opening but is starting to fall off, just like every other movie with bad word of mouth...
Top Gun: Maverick already showed Hollywood that you can make billions of dollars, with almost nothing but the American box office (so you dont have to worry about China banning your movie), and have positive word of mouth, and all you have to do is give the people what they want in a movie and make something fun. It doesnt even need to break new ground, just not suck compared to the last.
That Hollywood continues to treat Top Gun like a pariah and hiss at its presence shows that their hatred is deliberate, and they would rather go bankrupt making movies that appeal to their personal bubble and let them sniff their own farts long before they make a movie that appeals to...ewwww "Normal people."
Kevin Feige pulled from the best story beats of 50+ years to make a modern retelling of classic comics. There, that's it. That's what he did.
People keep saying the MCU is just cookie-cutter mass-market garbage but if it's so easy to do then why have literally all other attempts to replicate their success failed?
People like Cameron seem to forget that Marvel was rejected by every major studio. They didn't think you could make a good movie out of B-tier heroes like Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor. So Marvel studios bet the farm and made an independent student art film about a second-string superhero featuring a disgraced star on his way down to the gutter, and somehow won it all. Then just to flex on the whole business, they fucking went and made a movie about a giant talking tree man and a space racoon with 70s music and made a shitzillion more dollars.
Now since they've gone off classic Marvel in favor of woke comics they've been flopping. But to say their past success is some kind of fluke or only the result of spending money is sour fucking grapes.
Ah yes, war against....nebulous enemy of unspecified nationality.
It is exactly what the first movie is, and what Americans like: US comes in, kills the bad guy, and saves the day. It doesnt matter who or what it is, it doesnt prepare people for war with some nation. Its just that normal people like big explosions, hot jets, fast women, and "America, Ra Ra."
It may not be based. But its not woke or subversive either. It is just the possible last gasp of a Hollywood that still understood entertainment instead of propaganda.
Not the mention the absurd Diversity Team that goes on the final mission. I mean the black guy and wahman both fucked up the training run and still got to go, FFS.
Cameron clearly doesn't know what he's talking about if he's saying this. The whole reason people cared about the MCU was because it had interesting heroes with compelling journeys (before it went woke, anyway). You can't just feed people slop and expect your movies to succeed, they need more than that.
Then again, Cameron lost his credibility a long time ago. He called Terminator: Dark Fate the true sequel to Terminator 2 even though that movie gave John Connor the Luke Skywalker treatment.
I think there's little doubt that Avatar 2 (and the other sequels that for some godforsaken reason he's making) will not only be worse than the first movie, but they'll also be massive financial failures.
They could be just as big as the first movie and still be financial failures. Cameron has already admitted that this movie needs to make almost $2 BILLION...JUST TO BREAK EVEN!! And considering the metrics coming in are that it had a strong opening but is starting to fall off, just like every other movie with bad word of mouth...
Top Gun: Maverick already showed Hollywood that you can make billions of dollars, with almost nothing but the American box office (so you dont have to worry about China banning your movie), and have positive word of mouth, and all you have to do is give the people what they want in a movie and make something fun. It doesnt even need to break new ground, just not suck compared to the last.
That Hollywood continues to treat Top Gun like a pariah and hiss at its presence shows that their hatred is deliberate, and they would rather go bankrupt making movies that appeal to their personal bubble and let them sniff their own farts long before they make a movie that appeals to...ewwww "Normal people."
Kevin Feige pulled from the best story beats of 50+ years to make a modern retelling of classic comics. There, that's it. That's what he did.
People keep saying the MCU is just cookie-cutter mass-market garbage but if it's so easy to do then why have literally all other attempts to replicate their success failed?
People like Cameron seem to forget that Marvel was rejected by every major studio. They didn't think you could make a good movie out of B-tier heroes like Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor. So Marvel studios bet the farm and made an independent student art film about a second-string superhero featuring a disgraced star on his way down to the gutter, and somehow won it all. Then just to flex on the whole business, they fucking went and made a movie about a giant talking tree man and a space racoon with 70s music and made a shitzillion more dollars.
Now since they've gone off classic Marvel in favor of woke comics they've been flopping. But to say their past success is some kind of fluke or only the result of spending money is sour fucking grapes.
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True. If it was easy, Justice League would have been as good as Avengers.
2 Billion? Holy shit. That is not going to happen. Tbh i want more topgun type movies and no preachy shit.
Ah yes, war against....nebulous enemy of unspecified nationality.
It is exactly what the first movie is, and what Americans like: US comes in, kills the bad guy, and saves the day. It doesnt matter who or what it is, it doesnt prepare people for war with some nation. Its just that normal people like big explosions, hot jets, fast women, and "America, Ra Ra."
It may not be based. But its not woke or subversive either. It is just the possible last gasp of a Hollywood that still understood entertainment instead of propaganda.
Similar to GI Joe. COBRA was an easy adversary
Hot jets and fast women? That's quite the imagery, there. I like it.
Not the mention the absurd Diversity Team that goes on the final mission. I mean the black guy and wahman both fucked up the training run and still got to go, FFS.
Did he ever address why he did that to John Connor? Or was it just the message?