Time's person of the year is Zelensky.
(mobile.twitter.com)
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (34)
sorted by:
You can't "trigger an explosion" (nuclear) like that, it's not a cartoon. Are you a literal child?
There was no any "false flag", it was an air defense missile (S-300). Russia hit Russian territory with their own air defense missiles many times while dealing with Ukrainian air raids, it's happening all the time in all modern conflicts. Ukrainians once shot down a Russian passenger plane full of Israelis during their joint training exercise with the Russians in their better times (2001 or so), and much more recently Iran shot down an Ukrainian passenger plane full of Iranians, also by human error. It's been always a huge problem, with some estimates saying that the British anti-aircraft fire could have killed more people than the Germans air raids did (unlikely), and probably all of American civilians who died in the Pearl Harbor attack were killed by the American gunners (very likely as the Japs attacked the military targets only - there was also a lot of American friendly fire on their own planes).
Yet they kept yelling "Russia attacked Poland! Russia killed Polish citizens!" Even after NATO went "this is your air defence missile, not a Russian long range missile"
I said Russia's partners just need an excuse to look the other way even more, attacking the interior of Russia welcomes even more possibilities of it happening.
That's also the Polish gov (and opposition alike) line, the responsibility is 100% Russian. Just like all the civs killed by their fellow Americans in Pearl Harbor only died because of the Japanese attack.
Also the first Polish citizen who died in this war did in 2014, and he was brutally murdered by a drunken Russian fighter who first beat him in a street of Donetsk, then emptied his entire magazine into his legs (and pavement) and left him for dead. He was scooped to a hospital in Kharkiv, got one of his leg amputated but died 3 days later anyway. His name was Kazimierz Wróbel, he was living there with his local wife.
Ok, we can only use that 2014 exampm if you want to accept that the US and Europe have been involved since the coup not that this war started this year.
The problem is the messaging doesn't represent the facts coming out, if Ukraine is winning so much, why try to escalate by trying to get NATO fully involved or attacking Russia's interior. If you're winning a war you don't expand the scope of it where you could be stretched too thin to respond to new threats or climb the escalation ladder to where even more destruction is on the table.
The only coup was Russian first in Crimea when "not" Russian soldiers for some reason all armed with literal machineguns (Russia's new Pechenegs) seized the administration buildings in the raids in a middle of a night, and then in Slovyansk by Strelkov's semi-private party (with normal automatic rifles, and RPGs) and in other places by various other groups of masked men in unmarked uniforms. This was also the beginning of the war. More than 11,000 people then died in it over the next 12 months, and Wróbel was just one of them, like the almost 300 mostly Dutch people onboard MH17 were just a couple hundred of them among the thousands.