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Sometimes They Tell You What They Really Think
posted 2 years ago by Unknownsailor 2 years ago by Unknownsailor +31 / -1
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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

I have complaints about Trump, mostly that 2020 barely phased him.

And I have no significant objection to his statement on Twitter. Trump has always sought to use the media's fearmongering as a weapon to get them screeching about them.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

He complains about the stolen election almost every week.

This statement was deeply harmful to his electoral prospects. Normies don't want to hear a Republican candidate say throw out the constitution.

It is really easy to not shoot yourself in the dick.

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– Gizortnik 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

As he has done for a decade: stop taking him literally when he should be taken figuratively.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I am so sick of having to defend his unnecessarily toxic comments to normies.

We still need some normies to vote for Republicans to win elections.

Securing only the Trump base is just not enough to win an national election.

That is an undeniable fact.

The termination of the constitution comments that Trump made these days only appealed to the most hardcore fragment of his base.

It definitely alienates people we desperately need to win.

Trump in 2016 actually won key swing voters while in Trump 2020 he sadly eroded with a key type of swing voter: White male with college degree and it made so that the "fortification" was enough to seal it against him.

I know the patriots.win MAGA cultists will never accept reality about his comments being unnecessarily stupid but I am actually kinda disappointed that someone who is very capable of rational inquiry like you is not seeing this.

The difference between the OnlyTrumpers and me is very simple.

I actually understand how elections work and that it is imperative to expand your coalition beyond the base. Trump is incapable of expanding his base.

As time passes, his coalition will only shrink as he makes unnecessarily stupid unforced errors.

Despite all the insidious collusion that globalists have conducted to hinder Trump, the fact remains that Trump is sadly his own worst enemy.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I am so sick of having to defend his unnecessarily toxic comments to normies. We still need some normies to vote for Republicans to win elections. Securing only the Trump base is just not enough to win an national election.

Dude, you don't get it. The vast quantity of normies don't give a shit about his Twitter rants.

The termination of the constitution comments that Trump made these days only appealed to the most hardcore fragment of his base.

Nobody actually cares.

Trump in 2016 actually won key swing voters while in Trump 2020 he sadly eroded with a key type of swing voter: White male with college degree and it made so that the "fortification" was enough to seal it against him.

You have absolutely no evidence of this. You're better off citing white women, not white men. Men, as a demographic, heavily favored Trump, even when they typically wouldn't be expected to. That's why in 2019, Trump's support by black men was 45%.

I am actually kinda disappointed that someone who is very capable of rational inquiry like you is not seeing this.

The biggest criticism that I have seen is from the professional class saying his comments on Twitter are crass. If you think for even one second that that's more important than voter fraud, the economy, crime, abortion, or foregin policy it's you whom are not being rational. People who are swayed by this argument are swayed by media propaganda and that's it. Meaning, anyone who is parroting this, would have parroted anything that the media would have attacked him on, including "He eats steak with ketchup! Gross!"

The reality is, most people don't give a shit, and go "Trump is Trump". Nobody gave a shit either when the media attempted to surrender to both North Korea and Iran when Trump started talking shit to them. Anyone who did, was a terminal CNN patient.

Your DeSantis shilling makes you see Trump obsession that wasn't there. You are giving yourself TDS for no reason, and this is the very first few steps in it. I've seen better criticism of Trump, and this isn't it.

I actually understand how elections work and that it is imperative to expand your coalition beyond the base. Trump is incapable of expanding his base.

Trump's base is nearly the whole Republican party excluding the establishment. Trump's base expanded to hispanics and blacks. Trump's biggest weakness was white women, and the Republicans have made much more progress on that in the past several years.

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– SR388-SAX 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

2020 barely phased him

Fazed.

I only point it out because you're one of the more literary posters to the board and figure that if you didn't already know, you'd prefer to.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thank you.

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