I am so sick of having to defend his unnecessarily toxic comments to normies. We still need some normies to vote for Republicans to win elections. Securing only the Trump base is just not enough to win an national election.
Dude, you don't get it. The vast quantity of normies don't give a shit about his Twitter rants.
The termination of the constitution comments that Trump made these days only appealed to the most hardcore fragment of his base.
Nobody actually cares.
Trump in 2016 actually won key swing voters while in Trump 2020 he sadly eroded with a key type of swing voter: White male with college degree and it made so that the "fortification" was enough to seal it against him.
You have absolutely no evidence of this. You're better off citing white women, not white men. Men, as a demographic, heavily favored Trump, even when they typically wouldn't be expected to. That's why in 2019, Trump's support by black men was 45%.
I am actually kinda disappointed that someone who is very capable of rational inquiry like you is not seeing this.
The biggest criticism that I have seen is from the professional class saying his comments on Twitter are crass. If you think for even one second that that's more important than voter fraud, the economy, crime, abortion, or foregin policy it's you whom are not being rational. People who are swayed by this argument are swayed by media propaganda and that's it. Meaning, anyone who is parroting this, would have parroted anything that the media would have attacked him on, including "He eats steak with ketchup! Gross!"
The reality is, most people don't give a shit, and go "Trump is Trump". Nobody gave a shit either when the media attempted to surrender to both North Korea and Iran when Trump started talking shit to them. Anyone who did, was a terminal CNN patient.
Your DeSantis shilling makes you see Trump obsession that wasn't there. You are giving yourself TDS for no reason, and this is the very first few steps in it. I've seen better criticism of Trump, and this isn't it.
I actually understand how elections work and that it is imperative to expand your coalition beyond the base. Trump is incapable of expanding his base.
Trump's base is nearly the whole Republican party excluding the establishment. Trump's base expanded to hispanics and blacks. Trump's biggest weakness was white women, and the Republicans have made much more progress on that in the past several years.
Trump did make some meaningful inroads with Hispanics but in terms of inroads with the Black community, it was very negligible. The Black community will still vote in Saddam Hussein margins for the Democrats twenty years from now.
They are an inelastic population and frankly wasting money and time trying to win more of them should not be a priority for any Republican campaign.
Blexit was a huge grift that solely benefited Candace Owens and it was a complete waste of money and time.
Had all the Blexit money gone to registering more non College Whites and non college Latinos and turning them out to vote, Trump could still be President right now.
Trump currently has lost a key portion of his 2016 winning coalition: normie Republican White men who held their nose and voted for him in 2016 but didn't do so in 2020 and they will definitely not do so now.
I don't have TDS and will not give myself TDS. I see what advantages Trump brings and what disadvantages he brings.
In terms of building a national coalition, Trump 2024 is clearly even weaker than Trump 2020. He actually might lose North Carolina this time since that was the closest state he won. The suburbs trending Dem in Wake county, North Carolina is bad for even a generic Republican and it is especially bad for Trump.
Trump is becoming electoral poison to the suburbs because suburban voters are sadly generally normies who are too stupid to prioritize policy over sensibilities.
I prefer DeSantis for 2024 because he can stem the bleeding in the suburbs somewhat while retaining enough of Trump's base to eke out a win.
Sure DeSantis would lose some of the rabid OnlyTrumpers on Patriots.win but the end result will be better than running Trump again and having the bottom completely fall out in the suburbs.
I disagree with your assessments here. Frankly, I don't really see the evidence that white, non-college, voters abandoned Trump. I've only seen the opposite. The biggest thing I saw in 2020 regarding whites was that there was no 3rd party candidate pull away from the Dems. It looks like every Communist in America voted Joe Biden, along with all the Greens, and all Left-wing Libertarians. I've only seen people who reluctantly became Trump supporters (like me) stay Trump supporters. I live near the suburbanite white voters, and again, they're already rabid Trump supporters. I still see Trump flags and Trump signs.
The only thing that makes sense at the top level is that older people are dying off, and as such millennials are voting as a larger percentage, reducing the share of Trump supporters that way.
As for Blexit, I disagree again. It's actually quite useful if and only if those votes weren't being fraudulently counted anyway. The significant drop in black male voters in percentage is a huge signal of a real problem in the Democratic coalition. If only 70% of blacks vote Democrat, they literally can't win any election. The fact that black male voters are voting more republican, doesn't correspond to the count which tells us that Joe Biden is more popular among blacks than Barack Obama, by many millions. One of those reflects reality, and it's not the vote count. This is what happens when you have 125% turnout. That doesn't mean that focusing on black support is a good idea, it isn't: but only because there's not going to be an impact. If not one black person votes in the city of Chicago, at least 700,000 votes from black people will be cast for the Democrat in the city of Chicago.
"I live near the suburbanite white voters, and again, they're already rabid Trump supporters."
You are fucking trolling me. Trump's worst demographic in most states besides Black voters is suburban White voters.
Are you talking about suburban White voters in Wyoming or West Virginia or Ohio? Those are the only states where Trump actually does decent with them.
Trump wasted time and money on Blexit.
The data shows that Blacks vote in Saddam Hussein numbers for the Democrat. It is not fraud that is the reason for that. Blacks truly do vote in overwhelming numbers for the Democrats. Look at every election in the last 40 years not just 2020.
Stop chasing Black votes and focus on winning more non College Whites as well as Latino and Asian voters who are actually somewhat elastic.
Are you talking about suburban White voters in Wyoming or West Virginia or Ohio? Those are the only states where Trump actually does decent with them.
Yes, something like that, but I can't tell you which one for privacy reasons.
The data shows that Blacks vote in Saddam Hussein numbers for the Democrat. It is not fraud that is the reason for that. Blacks truly do vote in overwhelming numbers for the Democrats. Look at every election in the last 40 years not just 2020.
You'll note what I said: at 70%, the Democrats lose every election. I'm aware how slanted the black votes are, it's just that you don't even need to get to a 50-50 split to defeat the Dems.
And like I said, I didn't say that it was a good use of scarce resources. Promoting family values and strong immigration will be enough to win over black votes without having to chase after them directly.
Zelden is a good example of doing it right: he made massive progress in New York City because the Hascidic Jewish population turned out almost 80% for him due to his focus on crime (and because they were the victims of both crime and lockdowns). He didn't need to start screaming "If you don't vote for Lee Zelden, then you ain't jew!", he just needed to focus on crime, and they came along and gave him a nice boost.
Dude, you don't get it. The vast quantity of normies don't give a shit about his Twitter rants.
Nobody actually cares.
You have absolutely no evidence of this. You're better off citing white women, not white men. Men, as a demographic, heavily favored Trump, even when they typically wouldn't be expected to. That's why in 2019, Trump's support by black men was 45%.
The biggest criticism that I have seen is from the professional class saying his comments on Twitter are crass. If you think for even one second that that's more important than voter fraud, the economy, crime, abortion, or foregin policy it's you whom are not being rational. People who are swayed by this argument are swayed by media propaganda and that's it. Meaning, anyone who is parroting this, would have parroted anything that the media would have attacked him on, including "He eats steak with ketchup! Gross!"
The reality is, most people don't give a shit, and go "Trump is Trump". Nobody gave a shit either when the media attempted to surrender to both North Korea and Iran when Trump started talking shit to them. Anyone who did, was a terminal CNN patient.
Your DeSantis shilling makes you see Trump obsession that wasn't there. You are giving yourself TDS for no reason, and this is the very first few steps in it. I've seen better criticism of Trump, and this isn't it.
Trump's base is nearly the whole Republican party excluding the establishment. Trump's base expanded to hispanics and blacks. Trump's biggest weakness was white women, and the Republicans have made much more progress on that in the past several years.
Trump surprisingly improved slightly with White women in 2020.
He really lost ground in the suburbs and specifically lost ground with White men.
Please take a look at this.
https://archive.ph/2oHg8
Trump did make some meaningful inroads with Hispanics but in terms of inroads with the Black community, it was very negligible. The Black community will still vote in Saddam Hussein margins for the Democrats twenty years from now.
They are an inelastic population and frankly wasting money and time trying to win more of them should not be a priority for any Republican campaign.
Blexit was a huge grift that solely benefited Candace Owens and it was a complete waste of money and time.
Had all the Blexit money gone to registering more non College Whites and non college Latinos and turning them out to vote, Trump could still be President right now.
Trump currently has lost a key portion of his 2016 winning coalition: normie Republican White men who held their nose and voted for him in 2016 but didn't do so in 2020 and they will definitely not do so now.
I don't have TDS and will not give myself TDS. I see what advantages Trump brings and what disadvantages he brings.
In terms of building a national coalition, Trump 2024 is clearly even weaker than Trump 2020. He actually might lose North Carolina this time since that was the closest state he won. The suburbs trending Dem in Wake county, North Carolina is bad for even a generic Republican and it is especially bad for Trump.
Trump is becoming electoral poison to the suburbs because suburban voters are sadly generally normies who are too stupid to prioritize policy over sensibilities.
I prefer DeSantis for 2024 because he can stem the bleeding in the suburbs somewhat while retaining enough of Trump's base to eke out a win.
Sure DeSantis would lose some of the rabid OnlyTrumpers on Patriots.win but the end result will be better than running Trump again and having the bottom completely fall out in the suburbs.
I disagree with your assessments here. Frankly, I don't really see the evidence that white, non-college, voters abandoned Trump. I've only seen the opposite. The biggest thing I saw in 2020 regarding whites was that there was no 3rd party candidate pull away from the Dems. It looks like every Communist in America voted Joe Biden, along with all the Greens, and all Left-wing Libertarians. I've only seen people who reluctantly became Trump supporters (like me) stay Trump supporters. I live near the suburbanite white voters, and again, they're already rabid Trump supporters. I still see Trump flags and Trump signs.
The only thing that makes sense at the top level is that older people are dying off, and as such millennials are voting as a larger percentage, reducing the share of Trump supporters that way.
As for Blexit, I disagree again. It's actually quite useful if and only if those votes weren't being fraudulently counted anyway. The significant drop in black male voters in percentage is a huge signal of a real problem in the Democratic coalition. If only 70% of blacks vote Democrat, they literally can't win any election. The fact that black male voters are voting more republican, doesn't correspond to the count which tells us that Joe Biden is more popular among blacks than Barack Obama, by many millions. One of those reflects reality, and it's not the vote count. This is what happens when you have 125% turnout. That doesn't mean that focusing on black support is a good idea, it isn't: but only because there's not going to be an impact. If not one black person votes in the city of Chicago, at least 700,000 votes from black people will be cast for the Democrat in the city of Chicago.
"I live near the suburbanite white voters, and again, they're already rabid Trump supporters."
You are fucking trolling me. Trump's worst demographic in most states besides Black voters is suburban White voters.
Are you talking about suburban White voters in Wyoming or West Virginia or Ohio? Those are the only states where Trump actually does decent with them.
Trump wasted time and money on Blexit.
The data shows that Blacks vote in Saddam Hussein numbers for the Democrat. It is not fraud that is the reason for that. Blacks truly do vote in overwhelming numbers for the Democrats. Look at every election in the last 40 years not just 2020.
Stop chasing Black votes and focus on winning more non College Whites as well as Latino and Asian voters who are actually somewhat elastic.
Yes, something like that, but I can't tell you which one for privacy reasons.
You'll note what I said: at 70%, the Democrats lose every election. I'm aware how slanted the black votes are, it's just that you don't even need to get to a 50-50 split to defeat the Dems.
And like I said, I didn't say that it was a good use of scarce resources. Promoting family values and strong immigration will be enough to win over black votes without having to chase after them directly.
Zelden is a good example of doing it right: he made massive progress in New York City because the Hascidic Jewish population turned out almost 80% for him due to his focus on crime (and because they were the victims of both crime and lockdowns). He didn't need to start screaming "If you don't vote for Lee Zelden, then you ain't jew!", he just needed to focus on crime, and they came along and gave him a nice boost.