Do you think that if Wheel of Time had been made pre woke era then it could’ve reached the GOT early season popularity? Or close to it? I was going through my books and wondering what if someone who wasn’t a typical Hollywood douchebag had been the showrunner and no race swaps or changing the story to make the women look even stronger.
And speaking of GOT, that should be a prime example along with Westworld about what happens when you inject stuff like unnecessary girl power themes
Hollywood adaptations suck because the show-runner wants to (and has every incentive to) take ownership of the IP by making changes. If he meticulously adapts the source material with minimal changes, he might make the most popular show on TV, but he believes he will get no credit for it, and instead all praise will go to the original author.
So, instead, the selfish, egotistical narcissist who is in the position to become a major Hollywood show-runner is going to take a hatchet to the IP and make a lot of changes in order to make it undeniably HIS. Then, the original IP becomes a tool to be exploited in support of his own aggrandizement. If his show succeeds despite his changes having made it worse than if he had changed nothing, he still sees this as the superior outcome, because the result will be HIS, and not the author's.
The early seasons of GoT made a lot of changes, just nowhere near what you see now. But if you go on an episode-by-episode breakdown, there were a lot of changes. It's just that these changes were more for "adaption" purposes and less "creative" and "original" early on because D&D were desperate for the show to be a success and lacked confidence in themselves.
However, in later seasons, after they got full of themselves, they really shit all over the source material and the show went downhill.
How can we change this dynamic? Easy. Anime already went through this, to the point where some iconic shows had to be totally re-made only a few years later [like FMA]. This same dynamic used to dominate in anime, where 2-bit anime studio "writers" used to bastardize the source manga in order to make famous IP into "theirs" and the results were universally reviled. This caused a backlash that fixed the situation where now, it is pretty much the rule that anime adaptations of highly popular manga series strictly adhere to the source material.
The way you change the dynamic is to take away autonomy and control from the show-runner, and instead give the original author more power over the result, and to create a culture of "no changes from the source material" with the IP holders, who ruthlessly enforce it.
Will this actually happen? Likely not, or at least much more slowly, because Hollywood is compromised by libtards and atheistic jew activists who live only to enrich themselves and preach their ideology, and they don't really care much about maximizing profits anymore.
Well said. The first season of GOT was a great adaptation of book 1. I do blame the decline of the show partly on GRRM for not finishing the books. Also the way they caved to offended fans over the Sansa rape ( even though it didn’t happen in the books) and Ayra killing the Night King was done purely for girl power reasons.
Good to hear about anime. I remember the backlash the Cowboy bebop by Netflix got.
Arya killing the Night King made logical sense. You can neutralize an opposing army by taking out the leaders, which is why they've historically been so well-protected against assassins. In this case, the Night King was the mystical linchpin to the entire army of the dead, making him even more of a prime target. And they devoted her entire story arc into cultivating her into an assassin.
But because they went with the girl power route early on in the show, with too many girl bosses laming things up, Arya's 'power move' came across as pathetic feminist drivel.
As someone who loved the Ice and Fire books it really annoys me to see the way GRRM gets angry at fans for wanting him to finish the series
westworld season 1 was plenty of "girl empowerment", the whole thing was "innocent girl who is abused and oppressed overcomes her circumstances and takes revenge"
season 2 was a repeat of 1 with smug superpowered negress as the hero
Never thought of it that way. But I have to say I was entertained with season one. Granted that was before I was fed up with the “female who is better than any man” trope
The WoT books are just too dense to ever translate well onto the screen. There's too much going on, and literally thousands of speaking characters in each book. Granted, quite a bit of it could be cut out without really effecting the main story, but even without the wokeness, I really think you'd have trouble creating a show that an audience could follow and actually understand everything that's going on.
I guess I can’t argue that. There is probably a reason I am a huge book fan and prefer reading to watching tv.
You mean if they had made a good WoT? Yes, of course. The story is obviously compelling based on how many people read it. Each book is longer than the Bible, so they could pick some good stories to visualize out of that and make them.
I love the original movie and thought the first season of Westworld was good and Anthony Hopkins did a great job, but I hear the show was rewritten after Hillary lost and it really went off the rails.
You are so right about WOT. That’s why the showrunner is so annoying. It’s obvious he doesn’t care about the story because I hear that he will take things that Rand did and have one of the women do it. And why they needed race swaps when there were already non white people once they left their village is beyond me.