A thought that's been bouncing around in my head for the last few years is that Christians and their "Christian"-non-practicing offspring are some of the worst enablers of progressivism in the West. They're completely incapable of dealing with cultural rot like violent black criminals, because only Jesus can judge humans, but they're perfectly willing to hold you down while a thug rapes and murders you (figuratively, so far), because forgiveness is required of you. Whatever cultural power they have left is used solely to fuck over the rest of us.
And I know it's not solely parasitism. There's some of that, especially among Protestants (Episcopalians in particular), but I also know practicing Christians who aren't politically active, and still act as patsies for progs in their daily lives. Moreover, this is something that's developed over the last decade or so, and I couldn't tell you where it came from. They weren't always like this. They used to understand that humans still have to rule Earth, and therefore have to enforce laws.
On the other hand, I know a bunch of Bosnian Muslims, and even though their children are more liberal, when it comes to criminals, they still believe in punishment and retribution. They're certainly not actively undermining their own people.
Supposedly, reactionary Neopagans have been onto this for a while, and have been giving Catholics grief about it. I'm starting to sympathize with them. I don't believe that any of them actually believe in Odin or whatever the fuck, but if their solution to uncontrolled violent criminality is to start chopping limbs off, then they can sacrifice goats in a larp to dead gods for all I care, just start chopping.
This mostly stems from the perversion of Jesus into Hippie Jesus. "Like, love your brother, man. Be awesome to one another!"
Except for the fact that my Master did not tell the thief on the cross to just hop down, all was forgiven. And He did not just file civil suits against the money changers for improper use of the Temple. He patiently made a flagellum and the drove them out, literally bankrupting them in the original sense.
And admonished them that it was better to go around in your underclothes than unarmed. And whose eternal form caused John to faint in fear. Totally a laid back hippie, man.
Have felt that progressivism was the natural endgame of at least non orthodox christianity for a while now. The fetishization of victimhood, universalism. Christianity's obsession with guilt and charity towards the 'underprivileged'. Nietzsche's critique had some merit.
Christianity undoubtedly spread some good values as well. Hard to see that now. When I see youtubers like the distributist, I see them as weekend-at-bernies style larpers, holding up the corpse of their religion. I'm a fan of faith, I just don't see how I could have it in...that.
Maybe orthordox christianity is a bit better though?
There is a deep rot that had many roots in some forms of Catholicism
'social justice'. Where did it start? Look it up, it's catholic. Liberation theology? Catholic. There is a deep rot and has been for 80 odd years. The jesuits are entirely fallen, they are beings of the modern world and hold far too much sway over it.
At the same time the traditional catholics are the most sensible, keeping traditions alive from the old church, archiving our heritage
I look at modern churches and I weep, for they seem utterly devoid of the divine. Ugly modern buildings, ugly modern songs, no history, no tradition. That's not to say that these things are all strictly necessary. I do believe that after war, and in new lands, anything including your closet will do. But when you do opt to build something, buildings are made with purpose, and its a reflection of it. It should all be done in glory to God. I really do believe the future of christianity is with a more traditional group that understands this.
Perhaps the orthodox as you say. But I'm unwilling to throw the baby out with the bathwater. They came for Catholicism for a reason. They targeted it and infiltrated it with a foul purpose. It is not an institution we can allow the enemy to hold sway over.
the future of christianity is with a more traditional group that understands this.
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Liberation theology is a horrific example of neo-Marxist subversion of Christianity, corrupting the sacred with the profane . . . with demonstrated evil, in fact.
Mass in the vernacular is also a sign of the capitulation of a large chunk of Catholics to neo-Marxist social justice. All that touchy-feely bullshit smuggled in by closet Unitarians and atheist wolves in sheep's clothing. Forgiving your tormentors without attribution to the Trinity ain't Christian. It arises from any number of neuroses. I would bet 90% of the cases of public virtue signalling come not from compassion but from self-aggrandizement, from ego, from demonstrations of fake piety.
Shitty modern church architecture is also a symptom of this trend. No mistake that it mimics ugly Soviet-style "functionality." The same impulse that burns a cathedral erects these monstrosities,
There was a deep rot that had many roots in some forms of Catholicism
'social justice'. Where did it start? Look it up, it's catholic. Liberation theology? Catholic. There is a deep rot and has been for 80 odd years. The jesuits are entirely fallen, they are beings of the modern world and hold far too much sway over it.
You are correct, but it isn't Catholic. It's the opposite. Such reforms and "social justice" started as Protestant movements. Fake Catholics inherited it in an effort to keep people from leaving the faith like 80 years ago. A totally stupid and failure of a move, obviously.
They came for Catholicism for a reason. They targeted it and infiltrated it with a foul purpose. It is not an institution we can allow the enemy to hold sway over.
What you're describing is called being retarded and having subversive leaders and actually believing their perversions of the gospel. It's just neo cons subverting the church. Nothing in the Gospel says Christians have to ignore murderers. Quite the opposite. Not holding a animus and wanting to personally kill them doesn't mean they get a get out of jail free card.
Yes. If you aren't an traditional Catholic, just Christian, your denomination is flawed and unfinished. It's only natural that it leads to flawed mindsets like the parents have.
A thought that's been bouncing around in my head for the last few years is that Christians and their "Christian"-non-practicing offspring are some of the worst enablers of progressivism in the West. They're completely incapable of dealing with cultural rot like violent black criminals, because only Jesus can judge humans, but they're perfectly willing to hold you down while a thug rapes and murders you (figuratively, so far), because forgiveness is required of you. Whatever cultural power they have left is used solely to fuck over the rest of us.
And I know it's not solely parasitism. There's some of that, especially among Protestants (Episcopalians in particular), but I also know practicing Christians who aren't politically active, and still act as patsies for progs in their daily lives. Moreover, this is something that's developed over the last decade or so, and I couldn't tell you where it came from. They weren't always like this. They used to understand that humans still have to rule Earth, and therefore have to enforce laws.
On the other hand, I know a bunch of Bosnian Muslims, and even though their children are more liberal, when it comes to criminals, they still believe in punishment and retribution. They're certainly not actively undermining their own people.
Supposedly, reactionary Neopagans have been onto this for a while, and have been giving Catholics grief about it. I'm starting to sympathize with them. I don't believe that any of them actually believe in Odin or whatever the fuck, but if their solution to uncontrolled violent criminality is to start chopping limbs off, then they can sacrifice goats in a larp to dead gods for all I care, just start chopping.
This mostly stems from the perversion of Jesus into Hippie Jesus. "Like, love your brother, man. Be awesome to one another!"
Except for the fact that my Master did not tell the thief on the cross to just hop down, all was forgiven. And He did not just file civil suits against the money changers for improper use of the Temple. He patiently made a flagellum and the drove them out, literally bankrupting them in the original sense.
Forgive, but punishment must be meted out.
The same Jesus who advised all his followers to always carry a sword.
And admonished them that it was better to go around in your underclothes than unarmed. And whose eternal form caused John to faint in fear. Totally a laid back hippie, man.
Told them to sell their cloaks, which was the most important thing a Jew could own, if they didn't have a sword.
Have felt that progressivism was the natural endgame of at least non orthodox christianity for a while now. The fetishization of victimhood, universalism. Christianity's obsession with guilt and charity towards the 'underprivileged'. Nietzsche's critique had some merit.
Christianity undoubtedly spread some good values as well. Hard to see that now. When I see youtubers like the distributist, I see them as weekend-at-bernies style larpers, holding up the corpse of their religion. I'm a fan of faith, I just don't see how I could have it in...that.
Maybe orthordox christianity is a bit better though?
There is a deep rot that had many roots in some forms of Catholicism
'social justice'. Where did it start? Look it up, it's catholic. Liberation theology? Catholic. There is a deep rot and has been for 80 odd years. The jesuits are entirely fallen, they are beings of the modern world and hold far too much sway over it.
At the same time the traditional catholics are the most sensible, keeping traditions alive from the old church, archiving our heritage
I look at modern churches and I weep, for they seem utterly devoid of the divine. Ugly modern buildings, ugly modern songs, no history, no tradition. That's not to say that these things are all strictly necessary. I do believe that after war, and in new lands, anything including your closet will do. But when you do opt to build something, buildings are made with purpose, and its a reflection of it. It should all be done in glory to God. I really do believe the future of christianity is with a more traditional group that understands this.
Perhaps the orthodox as you say. But I'm unwilling to throw the baby out with the bathwater. They came for Catholicism for a reason. They targeted it and infiltrated it with a foul purpose. It is not an institution we can allow the enemy to hold sway over.
100%
Liberation theology is a horrific example of neo-Marxist subversion of Christianity, corrupting the sacred with the profane . . . with demonstrated evil, in fact.
Mass in the vernacular is also a sign of the capitulation of a large chunk of Catholics to neo-Marxist social justice. All that touchy-feely bullshit smuggled in by closet Unitarians and atheist wolves in sheep's clothing. Forgiving your tormentors without attribution to the Trinity ain't Christian. It arises from any number of neuroses. I would bet 90% of the cases of public virtue signalling come not from compassion but from self-aggrandizement, from ego, from demonstrations of fake piety.
Shitty modern church architecture is also a symptom of this trend. No mistake that it mimics ugly Soviet-style "functionality." The same impulse that burns a cathedral erects these monstrosities,
You are correct, but it isn't Catholic. It's the opposite. Such reforms and "social justice" started as Protestant movements. Fake Catholics inherited it in an effort to keep people from leaving the faith like 80 years ago. A totally stupid and failure of a move, obviously.
I agree.
What you're describing is called being retarded and having subversive leaders and actually believing their perversions of the gospel. It's just neo cons subverting the church. Nothing in the Gospel says Christians have to ignore murderers. Quite the opposite. Not holding a animus and wanting to personally kill them doesn't mean they get a get out of jail free card.
Yes. If you aren't an traditional Catholic, just Christian, your denomination is flawed and unfinished. It's only natural that it leads to flawed mindsets like the parents have.
If you're a catholic you're doa