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Veteran Conservative MP says it will be a question of "how much do we lose the election by?” (archive.ph)
posted 2 years ago by TheImpossible1 2 years ago by TheImpossible1 +18 / -5
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– Benevolentdictator 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

In Canada in 1993, two-term Progressive Conservative Prime Minister Brian Mulroney stepped down due to unpopularity over implementing a national sales tax and two failed constitutional amendment accords to try to appease Quebec. His big tent coalition was also crumbling as his Quebec lieutenant Lucien Bouchard left the party to form a new separatist party, the Bloc Quebecois. His Western Canada support base would also splinter, as a new Western conservative party would form, the Reform Party under Preston Manning, son of a former Alberta premier.

Kim Campbell would win the PC leadership and become Canada’s first (and only) Prime Minister.

Campbell would run later that year against Liberal Jean Chretien, a former Pierre Trudeau cabinet minister running on a platform of balancing deficits and canceling military purchases of helicopters.

Campbell wouldn't even win her own seat. The PCs would only win two seats out of Canada’s 300 or so ridings, Jean Charest and Elsie Wayne. The PCs, the party dating from Confederation and of Canada’s first Prime Minister, Sir John A. MacDonald, would lose official party status and would never recover.

The Liberals won a majority and would rule for the next 12 years until Paul Martin would be defeated by Stephen Harper's newly formed Conservative coalition party in 2005.

The OG Progressive Conservative party would never recover. They would limp along as a fourth or fifth place party for the next decade. Eventually, they would merge and be swallowed by the breakaway Western Canadian Reform party whom adopted their name and brand to win power in 2005.

Kim Campbell, Canada’s first and only female Prime Minister's term would be limited to a few months and would be relegated to the dustbin of politics besides a plum diplomat appointment.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

Does Labor cheat in the UK like the Democrats do here? Or are the Conservatives cucked enough that they don't bother?

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– SoctaticMethod1 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

The latter, conservative voters have a bad habit of when things don't go their way, they don't vote 'in protest' than vote for a smaller party with the same values as them.

Labour aren't getting a massive switch in voters, it's just theirs turned up and the other side stayed at home.

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– SoctaticMethod1 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

As I've said previously, unless both voters don't just have a tantrum and refuse to vote when the party doesn't do what they want and the public at large don't think only 3 parties can hold power, there won't be any significant change.

If you can get those two conditions met, gloves are off, there's so many independent and smaller parties that are more free speech, less government oriented that trying to infiltrate and bribe them all would be impossible. Then you can move onto the biggest mountain, breaking the power of the civil service.

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– Piroko 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

"You must say the decision is courageous."

"And that's worse than controversial?"

"Controversial only means this will lose you votes. Courageous means this will lose you the election."

-Yes, Minister

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– TheImpossible1 [S] -1 points 2 years ago +3 / -4

The deal with the devil failed. Will the pound's sell-off be the crack in the More Feminine Way's armor that brings down the whole thing?

What happens when the people reject the options their oppressors offer and demand actual representation?

There has never been a better time for someone to emerge to take on their system. All the major parties are wounded.


The Conservatives are fiscally irresponsible, Labour are in the pocket of the unions, who everyone hates. The Lib Dems have always been a joke and will continue to be.

Truss out and change from the inside, or yet another shot at breaking the two party system?

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

What happens when the people reject the options their oppressors offer and demand actual representation?

The people have no power.

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