As things continue to degrade, at some point the correct and moral response to the situation is going to be the application of violence. I worry that we've already reached that point between the dystopian surveillance, the deliberate invasion of our nations with politicians facilitating it, and the demonic sacrifice of the children to the gender ideology. Yet precious few people will be able to stomach the notion that we can no longer talk or vote our way out of disaster and the few who do have the courage to do what must be done to correct course will get thrashed by the state. Generations worth of propaganda that "violence is never the answer" will have effectively disarmed the majority of the population.
So many have no concept of violence, either as a thing that could be visited upon themselves or others, nor any understanding of it as necessary tool for navigating the world and a force for good.
It's a real problem and thinking about it keeps me up at night.
We no longer have any major party standing up to this shit. We have Centrist-authoritarian, Left-authoritarian, and Far-left authoritarian…
All three of which were on board with the Covid-fascism…
Only the smaller parties, that effectively cannot form government, offer any sort of alternative…
The last Federal election just proved there is no way for the population to vote its way out of this, and that even IF there was (voting for minor parties, for example), there’s no guarantee that those newly-elected “independents” won’t just turn around and stab you in the back…
Democracy is long, long dead, in the Antipodes, sadly…
In all seriousness, though, voting has been mandatory here, at state and federal level, for over a century...
It only became compulsory at the local level, in my state, this year (it shouldn't have, but the state government arbitrarily and undemocratically changed the law, to mandate voting at that level, despite public opposition to the change), however I seriously do not think that will change the outcome...
Does it bounce turnout slightly? Maybe. Does it make the election into more of a circus than, say, NZ, or another comparative country like maybe Ireland? Most definitely.
But does it actually change the outcomes? Probably not. If anything, it might shift things to the left by a decent margin, but... I certainly don't think it "helps" our cause...
So just... Be careful what you wish for, hey? Because trust me, even without that same "apathy", things are not necessarily any better on this end...
This is retarded; governments want violent reactions. They put millions into militarizing police for just this reason. Violence is easily put down and allows them to delegitimize their opponents.
If you want change, get in there and do it yourself.
Are you a school board trustee? Do you attend meetings or write letters? Do you even volunteer at your local school? Or have you done nothing and, when that didn't work, decided to just straight to violence?
I do think there are times when violence is the sole response (if the government took my kids like they did those in residential schools, that would be my line), but we're not even close yet. Options need to be exhausted first, or else you just look like a naive child (at best) or an unhinged radical undermining everything you stand for.
The use of violence is a popular topic but I've yet to hear anyone describe the framework under which violence would be employed.
It seems like most people think we should be picking up our guns and walking down to the school board meeting and demanding changes at gun point. This would end in absolute disaster for everyone involved, and whose to say the new changes, even if implemented successfully, could even be considered legitimate?
The sad truth is, when the country is filled with corrupt and degenerate people, we get a corrupt and degenerate government. A tiny number of armed individuals storming into local government offices and demanding changes is the epitome of illegitimate government.
No, in order for violence to be employed justly with the goal of creating something better than what we have now, there needs to be a very clear framework and justification that is morally and logically sound. I've yet to hear anyone bring forward such a framework.
This is retarded; governments want violent reactions. They put millions into militarizing police for just this reason. Violence is easily put down and allows them to delegitimize their opponents.
I agree with you that options need to be exhausted first, but the fear I am expressing is that once those options have been exhausted people will not acknowledge that they have been exhausted. People will cling to the idea that they can still use something other than violence, when violence is at last the sole option on the table. They'd rather fool themselves for their entire lives.
As things continue to degrade, at some point the correct and moral response to the situation is going to be the application of violence. I worry that we've already reached that point between the dystopian surveillance, the deliberate invasion of our nations with politicians facilitating it, and the demonic sacrifice of the children to the gender ideology. Yet precious few people will be able to stomach the notion that we can no longer talk or vote our way out of disaster and the few who do have the courage to do what must be done to correct course will get thrashed by the state. Generations worth of propaganda that "violence is never the answer" will have effectively disarmed the majority of the population.
So many have no concept of violence, either as a thing that could be visited upon themselves or others, nor any understanding of it as necessary tool for navigating the world and a force for good.
It's a real problem and thinking about it keeps me up at night.
In Australia, we’re one step ahead of you guys…
We no longer have any major party standing up to this shit. We have Centrist-authoritarian, Left-authoritarian, and Far-left authoritarian…
All three of which were on board with the Covid-fascism…
Only the smaller parties, that effectively cannot form government, offer any sort of alternative…
The last Federal election just proved there is no way for the population to vote its way out of this, and that even IF there was (voting for minor parties, for example), there’s no guarantee that those newly-elected “independents” won’t just turn around and stab you in the back…
Democracy is long, long dead, in the Antipodes, sadly…
I literally could not agree more. We have a real problem here.
Mandatory voting, baybay, woohoo! /s
In all seriousness, though, voting has been mandatory here, at state and federal level, for over a century...
It only became compulsory at the local level, in my state, this year (it shouldn't have, but the state government arbitrarily and undemocratically changed the law, to mandate voting at that level, despite public opposition to the change), however I seriously do not think that will change the outcome...
Does it bounce turnout slightly? Maybe. Does it make the election into more of a circus than, say, NZ, or another comparative country like maybe Ireland? Most definitely.
But does it actually change the outcomes? Probably not. If anything, it might shift things to the left by a decent margin, but... I certainly don't think it "helps" our cause...
So just... Be careful what you wish for, hey? Because trust me, even without that same "apathy", things are not necessarily any better on this end...
This is retarded; governments want violent reactions. They put millions into militarizing police for just this reason. Violence is easily put down and allows them to delegitimize their opponents.
If you want change, get in there and do it yourself.
Are you a school board trustee? Do you attend meetings or write letters? Do you even volunteer at your local school? Or have you done nothing and, when that didn't work, decided to just straight to violence?
I do think there are times when violence is the sole response (if the government took my kids like they did those in residential schools, that would be my line), but we're not even close yet. Options need to be exhausted first, or else you just look like a naive child (at best) or an unhinged radical undermining everything you stand for.
The use of violence is a popular topic but I've yet to hear anyone describe the framework under which violence would be employed.
It seems like most people think we should be picking up our guns and walking down to the school board meeting and demanding changes at gun point. This would end in absolute disaster for everyone involved, and whose to say the new changes, even if implemented successfully, could even be considered legitimate?
The sad truth is, when the country is filled with corrupt and degenerate people, we get a corrupt and degenerate government. A tiny number of armed individuals storming into local government offices and demanding changes is the epitome of illegitimate government.
No, in order for violence to be employed justly with the goal of creating something better than what we have now, there needs to be a very clear framework and justification that is morally and logically sound. I've yet to hear anyone bring forward such a framework.
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I agree with you that options need to be exhausted first, but the fear I am expressing is that once those options have been exhausted people will not acknowledge that they have been exhausted. People will cling to the idea that they can still use something other than violence, when violence is at last the sole option on the table. They'd rather fool themselves for their entire lives.