I swear that we the dissident right are the only people who were looking at the Russian/Ukrainian war rationally.

posted 2 years ago by AbleistSL 2 years ago by AbleistSL +35 / -5

Seriously, we condemned Russia for invading Ukraine and have probably acknowledged that they most likely killed civilians while trying to bombard enemy positions, while also condemning Ukraine for lying for propaganda purposes, persecuting dissidents and political rivals, and using barrier troops to force men to fight instead of letting them flee the corrupt shithole.

Meanwhile, the regressive left and globalist conspirators aggressively and blindly defended Ukraine while intensifying the Russia bashing to the point where regressive leftist russophobia was documented to have escalated.

In all honesty, fuck everyone involved in this retarded conflict that could have been avoided with better diplomacy.

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– SupremeReader -12 points 2 years ago +2 / -14

And this is what happens when you don't have any troops in an isolated civilian shelter that you announce as such and even have it marked with huge signs reading "CHILDREN": https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/5713/2022/en/

And this is what happens when you don't defend these populated areas and allow the orcs to take them and have their way with the humans: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/04/ukraine-russian-forces-extrajudicially-executing-civilians-in-apparent-war-crimes-new-testimony/

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– AntonioOfVenice 14 points 2 years ago +15 / -1

You're citing Amnesty. Amnesty was condemning Ukraine for using civilians as human shields a while back, which of course elicited howls of outrage from the "GAE allies can do no wrong" crowd.

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– SupremeReader -3 points 2 years ago +1 / -4

I'm citing Amnesty in spose to the poster citing Amnesty, to show what happens when the civilian areas are not being defended and are left to (no) mercy of the invaders.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 2 years ago +5 / -1

Hadn't read it. That said, it is interesting that criticism of GAE allies is Very Bad and of opponents if Very Good.

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– SupremeReader -1 points 2 years ago +3 / -4

Speak like a normal fucking human being.

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– SupremeReader -2 points 2 years ago +2 / -4

The three links from above, so you could read before commenting for once:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/ (opening, not mine)

Fragment:

Many of the Russian strikes that Amnesty International documented in recent months were carried out with inherently indiscriminate weapons, including internationally banned cluster munitions, or with other explosive weapons with wide area effects. Others used guided weapons with varying levels of accuracy; in some cases, the weapons were precise enough to target specific objects.

The Ukrainian military’s practice of locating military objectives within populated areas does not in any way justify indiscriminate Russian attacks. All parties to a conflict must at all times distinguish between military objectives and civilian objects and take all feasible precautions, including in choice of weapons, to minimize civilian harm. Indiscriminate attacks which kill or injure civilians or damage civilian objects are war crimes.

And two mine, providing the context - what happens to the undefended areas:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/5713/2022/en/

(A deliberate massacre of children with an airstrike.)

On 16 March 2022, shortly after 10am, a Russian air strike destroyed the Donetsk Regional Academic Drama Theatre in Mariupol, Ukraine. At the time of the attack, hundreds of civilians were in and around the theatre; many were killed. The theatre was clearly recognizable as a civilian object, perhaps more so than any other location in the city. The evidence Amnesty International has gathered demonstrates that the attack was a war crime.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/04/ukraine-russian-forces-extrajudicially-executing-civilians-in-apparent-war-crimes-new-testimony/

Testimonies shows that unarmed civilians in Ukraine are being killed in their homes and streets in acts of unspeakable cruelty and shocking brutality

There's lots more of course.

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