Seriously, we condemned Russia for invading Ukraine and have probably acknowledged that they most likely killed civilians while trying to bombard enemy positions, while also condemning Ukraine for lying for propaganda purposes, persecuting dissidents and political rivals, and using barrier troops to force men to fight instead of letting them flee the corrupt shithole.
Meanwhile, the regressive left and globalist conspirators aggressively and blindly defended Ukraine while intensifying the Russia bashing to the point where regressive leftist russophobia was documented to have escalated.
In all honesty, fuck everyone involved in this retarded conflict that could have been avoided with better diplomacy.
The three links from above, so you could read before commenting for once:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/ (opening, not mine)
Fragment:
And two mine, providing the context - what happens to the undefended areas:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/5713/2022/en/
(A deliberate massacre of children with an airstrike.)
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/04/ukraine-russian-forces-extrajudicially-executing-civilians-in-apparent-war-crimes-new-testimony/
There's lots more of course.
There are three relevant countries which have not signed the ban on cluster munitions. Russia, Ukraine, and the United States.
They can't lawfully attack "indiscriminately", but they can lawfully attack the military objective even if that means collateral damage to civilians.
I agree.
But it's worse than a crime, it's a blunder. If you were going to kill people indiscriminately, it would be smart to do it in a place where the people aren't in large part Russians / Russian speakers, like Lwow. Reducing Mariupol seems counterproductive, whether or not it was justified under ius in bello.
But what do I know? Putin's probably smarter than I am, and knows what he's doing.
If only there had been a way to avoid this way, like not provoking Russia for 30 years straight.
It's not any "blunder", it was a deliberate mass murder.
As deliberate as them shooting people in the back of the head and leaving their bodies in houses and streets, or burying them in shallow mass graves, which they also do.
The very same thing, just from the air.
And not an isolated incident.
You for some bizarre reason think they care about "Russians / Russian speakers", but Russia is now so hated in Kharkiv for a reason.
It's like you don't remember what they have done to the Russians in Grozny. Or maybe you just don't know.
At the end of 1994, Grozny was still (and perhaps rather again, as most of the Chechens have taken shelter in the countryside with their families) majority Russian.
There are probably no longer any Russians in Grozny. (Something like a decade ago there were still less than 100.)
Do you know what happened there?
It's not a fucking secret.
Do you not know the quote? It refers to a murder.
Or shooting POWs in the kn... NO! THAT WAS OUR ALLY! SHUT IT DOWN!
They'd care if they have a brain. Not for the value of human life, or even fellow countrymen, which is irrelevant to any politician. But these are the people who will be far easier to integrate in a greater Russia than Galicians.
The past 8 years and crackdowns by the SBU (the successor to what you called 'the worst organization in history') did that.
Crazy if true.
'The most destroyed city' in the world is a clue.
And speaking of Grozny, ironically, this photo, here: https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-media-propaganda-ukraine-conflict-chechnya/26660126.html
They don't even say it in the article, but they were the Russian civilians in this photo, killed by the Russian state. This is why the place was in the Orthodox cemetery.
It was in March, this related video is from April, same subject: http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/youtube/cce7108220fc9561adecb9a183446123
That's a whole lot of "blunder". Nowadays they didn't even count in Mariupol at all.
And now (in 2014) the absolutely shameless Russian propaganda, inclduing Rassiya 1 no less (about whom you told me you somehow didn't know anything, remember?), uses the imagery of their own crimes as fake Ukrainian crimes.
Nothing can be more disgusting.
You believe what they tell you. The "shelling of Donbass". Why are you choosing to be retarded? Just so be an anti-Westeen contrarian, siding with the worst bunch. With cynical mass murderers of their own people.
Yeah, but you keep talking about it. You're literally the only one I've ever heard mention that.
It'd be easier to believe your narratives if you weren't always "Ukraine has never done anything wrong, except not being warmongering enough".
Cluster munitions on Donetsk?
Who is 'siding' with anyone? Western leaders are the worst mass murderers in the world, that's number one. Secondly, if Putin murders his own people, that really is their problem, and not mine. The criminal Western leaders are my problem.