Imagine someone calling you with that ridiculous voice saying that "HE FIGHTED THE RUSSIANS, AND COMMITTED SOME CRIMES AGAINST JEWS ACCIDENTALLY"! Yes, very accident, the Jews just all fell on my bayonet. And then you agreeing that a rather bad guy is a "great man".
And then denying on social media that you said it. Did he think there was no video of it, or did he think it was actually Zelenskyy even as people were laughing at him for falling for Vovan and Lexus?
I'm not interested in why Ukraine supports Bandera. They're entitled to do so, as with the other collaborators and Nazi war criminals they support. Things are complicated when you have to choose between Hitler and Stalin, though Stalin is definitely the right choice in 1941-45 we can say in retrospect.
My issue is with the corrupt West, which calls me a Nazi if I express the slightest disagreement with the ruling class, but they're perfectly fine supporting a country like that, as well as the Azov BatallionRegiment.
He was a war criminal, and a terrorist before the war (convicted), but he was Nazi prisoner (arrested by the Gestapo) and a lot of his followers were murdered and tortured by the Nazis. After the war, Bandera worked for the MI6.
It's like reducing Hi Chi Minh as someone defined as having "worked for the Americans", and ideologically inspired by America (the American Revolution), ignoring what happened later.
Didn't he also co-operate with the Germans in the early stages of the war?
Azov is a brigade now. Since like March.
So one wonders how these Western leaders who make a big show of virtue-signaling and calling everyone a Nazi could possibly support actual Nazis. (Obviously, I'm not wondering.)
On the said terrorism (but Poland overall was a place of extreme political violence even during peacetime - a president shot dead, a successful military coup with hundreds killed, police repeatedly massacring protesters and strikers, a ridicalously huge commie bombing that killed hundreds of people, tens of thousands of commies fleeing the police repressions to the USSR only to be executed by Stalin, etc):
Since joining the OUN, Bandera has rapidly risen through its ranks – partly due to his skills as an organiser and his knack for clandestine operations, and partly as a result of a generational change that took place within the organisation, which saw older and more moderate activists gradually replaced by young radicals. In 1931, Bandera became the head of the propaganda department, and two years later he was appointed the head (providnyk) of OUN’s National Executive. He pushed the activity of the organisation towards individual terror against the representatives of Polish authorities and against Ukrainians who were believed to collaborate with enemies. He personally selected assassins from among prospective candidates and made detailed preparations for the assassinations.
On 15 June 1934, his men carried out a daring assassination of the Polish Minister of Internal Affairs, Bronisław Pieracki. The swift reaction of the Polish authorities entailed mass arrests of OUN members as well as the establishment of a detention camp in Bereza Kartuska – a prison for political opponents of the ruling party. On 25 July 1934 the principal of the Ukrainian secondary school in Lviv, Ivan Babiy, a former UHA officer and a great Ukrainian patriot, was murdered for preventing OUN propaganda from being spread on school grounds, as he wanted to protect the students and the school from police reprisals. Bandera considered it to be treason.
The Greek Catholic Metropolitan of Lviv Andrey Sheptytsky spoke out after Babiy's murder, condemning the activities of Ukrainian terrorists as amoral; however, in the eyes of young radicals, Stepan Bandera – the leader of the assassins, who was arrested by Poles – started turning into a hero. This could be attributed in part to the reports of his steadfast attitude during two trials in Warsaw and Lviv, which saw him sentenced to death – at a later date, the sentence was changed to life imprisonment. His fanaticism is best described by the words he himself used in his final speech during the Lviv trial:
"our idea in our understanding is so grand, that when we talk about its realization, not single individuals, nor hundreds, but millions of victims have to be sacrificed in order to realise it."
Bandera’s way with words, unpredictable temperament, fanatical determination and his devotion to the ‘sacred nationalist cause’ all contributed to the growing cult of personality.
Bandera served his sentence in Polish prisons in Święty Krzyż, Rawicz, Wronki and in the Bereza Kartuska camp. Before the outbreak of World War II, he was moved to the prison in Brest, from where he was released on 13 September 1939 – after which he made an attempt to seize power in the OUN. Several months later, in 1940, the organisation split into two factions – one led by Andriy Melnyk (OUN-M) and the other led by Bandera (OUN-B).
tens of thousands of commies fleeing the police repressions to the USSR only to be executed by Stalin
Man, Stalin was just the gift that kept giving to foreign governments repressing their communists.
"our idea in our understanding is so grand, that when we talk about its realization, not single individuals, nor hundreds, but millions of victims have to be sacrificed in order to realise it."
Thanks Robespierre.
one led by Andriy Melnyk (OUN-M) and the other led by Bandera (OUN-B).
I have an idea about what the M and B stand for.also start with a
No, by Poland before the war. His guys were robbing banks, shot dead a minister of the interior, etc.
Later:
Bandera was in occupied Poland when on June 30, 1941, his comrades proclaimed an independent Ukrainian state in Nazi-occupied Lviv — and the Germans banned him from traveling to Ukraine. Adolf Hitler rejected the idea of Ukrainian independence, and Bandera was arrested and imprisoned in Sachsenhausen concentration camp until 1944. The OUN-B continued to fight for independence in Ukraine with the help of its military arm, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army. The Nazis and the Soviets persecuted and killed OUN-B fighters.
Did you read the article? No you didn't, because you know it's historians there.
Btw,
A survey by the Democratic Initiative Foundation in April 2021 found that one out of three Ukrainians, 32%, considered Bandera's acts as positive, and just as many took the opposite view. (...) Among Ukrainians, the war seems to have brought about a radical change with regard to Bandera. In April, researchers from the Rating group, a Ukrainian research organization, found that 74% of Ukrainians now view the historical figure favorably.
Told you how much the invasion radicalised the population and moved the Overton window (far) right radically.
Ethnic Russians now hate Russia, and their families there. Commies of all sorts are illegal.
Not a single Lenin remains unless the Russians arrived in time to save it.
Bandera spent most of the war in a German concentration camps, they killed his brothers and thousands of his followers (who also killed lots of Germans).
Shouldn't you start sperging about Victoria Nuland taking side of Yanuk against the EU (Baltics & Poland)?
Btw the Russians (including a high ranking female official) now claim she personally oversees them biolabs producing the monstrous Ukrainian suprersoldiers.
The fantasist Russian woman is the deputy chair of Duma, Irina Yarovaya. She's running totally wild now. "Monstrous killing machines" created with covid and monkeypocs. Why not like genome soldiers, instead of random bullshit. She's so dumb.
Imagine someone calling you with that ridiculous voice saying that "HE FIGHTED THE RUSSIANS, AND COMMITTED SOME CRIMES AGAINST JEWS ACCIDENTALLY"! Yes, very accident, the Jews just all fell on my bayonet. And then you agreeing that a rather bad guy is a "great man".
And then denying on social media that you said it. Did he think there was no video of it, or did he think it was actually Zelenskyy even as people were laughing at him for falling for Vovan and Lexus?
The UON-B also "fighted" the Germans. After they arrested Bandera and shot his aides, killed his brothers too.
I'm not interested in why Ukraine supports Bandera. They're entitled to do so, as with the other collaborators and Nazi war criminals they support. Things are complicated when you have to choose between Hitler and Stalin, though Stalin is definitely the right choice in 1941-45 we can say in retrospect.
My issue is with the corrupt West, which calls me a Nazi if I express the slightest disagreement with the ruling class, but they're perfectly fine supporting a country like that, as well as the Azov
BatallionRegiment.He was a war criminal, and a terrorist before the war (convicted), but he was Nazi prisoner (arrested by the Gestapo) and a lot of his followers were murdered and tortured by the Nazis. After the war, Bandera worked for the MI6.
It's like reducing Hi Chi Minh as someone defined as having "worked for the Americans", and ideologically inspired by America (the American Revolution), ignoring what happened later.
Azov is a brigade now. Since like March.
By Stalin's apparat, so...
Didn't he also co-operate with the Germans in the early stages of the war?
So one wonders how these Western leaders who make a big show of virtue-signaling and calling everyone a Nazi could possibly support actual Nazis. (Obviously, I'm not wondering.)
On the said terrorism (but Poland overall was a place of extreme political violence even during peacetime - a president shot dead, a successful military coup with hundreds killed, police repeatedly massacring protesters and strikers, a ridicalously huge commie bombing that killed hundreds of people, tens of thousands of commies fleeing the police repressions to the USSR only to be executed by Stalin, etc):
https://ipn.gov.pl/en/digital-resources/articles/8044,Stepan-Bandera-leader-of-the-Organisation-of-Ukrainian-Nationalists.html
Man, Stalin was just the gift that kept giving to foreign governments repressing their communists.
Thanks Robespierre.
I have an idea about what the M and B stand for.also start with a
It's a little little known episode.
https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/lesser-known-horror-of-stalins-great-purge-which-saw-over-100k-poles-massacred-goes-on-display-in-harrowing-new-exhibition-7565
No, by Poland before the war. His guys were robbing banks, shot dead a minister of the interior, etc.
Later:
From https://www.dw.com/en/stepan-bandera-ukrainian-hero-or-nazi-collaborator/a-61842720 that you might read entirely as an introduction.
I'm sure there's a more reliable source out there than a journo working at the Deutsche freaking Welle...
Did you read the article? No you didn't, because you know it's historians there.
Btw,
Told you how much the invasion radicalised the population and moved the Overton window (far) right radically.
Ethnic Russians now hate Russia, and their families there. Commies of all sorts are illegal.
Not a single Lenin remains unless the Russians arrived in time to save it.
This is the guy who writes books featuring child orgies after all
Bandera spent most of the war in a German concentration camps, they killed his brothers and thousands of his followers (who also killed lots of Germans).
Tfw you need to agree with women so much that you accidentally go full circle and become a Nazi.
Zelensky is secretly a woman, it's true.
If you look closely, you can see entirely unelected usurper Von Der Leyen holding his strings.
I thought the Prime Minister of Lithuania was pulling the strings. After all, Lithuania started the war, innit?
It was all a plot to restore the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Shouldn't you start sperging about Victoria Nuland taking side of Yanuk against the EU (Baltics & Poland)?
Btw the Russians (including a high ranking female official) now claim she personally oversees them biolabs producing the monstrous Ukrainian suprersoldiers.
Even apart from Nuland's confirmation, didn't George Bush confirm their existence to Vovan and Lexus?
What George Bush now lol
The fantasist Russian woman is the deputy chair of Duma, Irina Yarovaya. She's running totally wild now. "Monstrous killing machines" created with covid and monkeypocs. Why not like genome soldiers, instead of random bullshit. She's so dumb.
Polish gov TV: https://tvpworld.com/61378936/russia-is-losing-because-ukraine-has-mutant-soldiers-russian-lawmakers
It's Polish, yes (Rosja to nie kraj, to stan umysłu).