Episode 3 also had the deus ex machina ending praising communism.
I can handle subversion but at least be a bit subtle about it.
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How so? I've recently watched most of it and it has been leftist themes since the start.
All that gender and tranny nonsense with the "all male" species, straight up gay sex in multiple episodes, shitting on "anti-vaxxers", stronk women have to save the day and so on and so forth
People desperately wanted their "non woke" Star Trek to attack STD with, so they let a lot of stuff slide.
"To attack STD with" implies Discovery had any redeeming qualities.
I mean, nearly all discussion of Orville I saw was only in comparison to STD. It never came up on its own, only when people were attacking some aspect of Star Trek and positioning it as "the REAL Trek."
lorca was cool until they boned him, the show had good production value most of the time
I should have been more clear, that's what Tim was suggesting. I haven't been watching The Orville.