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Louisiana and Utah trigger laws banning abortions temporarily blocked by courts (archive.ph)
posted 4 years ago by Ahaus667 4 years ago by Ahaus667 +40 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I'm going to predict that most blanket bans ultimately won't hold for long. Medical, and rape exceptions will probably be made.

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– AtrociKitty 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Medical, and rape exceptions will probably be made.

These already exist under the current "bans" the media is reporting. We're honestly beyond the point of misrepresentation; discussion around abortion has devolved to outright lies.

For example, claims that an abortion law in Alabama will outright ban abortions have been circulating on social media. They frequently include a screenshot of the first page of the bill, along with claims that severe medical risks such as ectopic pregnancies cannot be addressed by doctors under the law. The bill is a mere 5 pages, and if you take a moment to read it, you'll see it specifically makes allowances for medical exceptions. It even mentions ectopic pregnancies by name.

Another enormous lie is the claim that abortion "bans" are criminalizing mothers that seek an abortion. Each state law currently in place does no such thing. The only criminal act is providing an abortion, not seeking or getting one.

This level of propaganda isn't new, but we're firmly "post-truth" now. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that everyone is claiming a screenshot says the opposite of what its text actually says, with the media and politicians all nodding along and agreeing.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Setting aside specious pro-choice scenarios, medical exceptions make sense as a principle. I don't know why abortion would be the only solution as opposed to C-section, but whatever.

Rape exceptions seem more murky though. If you believe in personhood from conception then you probably oppose those exceptions, but who knows.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Rape abortion is indeed more murky - about as murky as downs syndrome/other defect abortions.

...But most men don't want to spend their life looking after deformed/retarded kids, nor do they want their wife or daughter forced to birth her rapist's son.

Of course, there is the possibility that these people will say to themselves 'Well, if someone in MY family wants an abortion, we'll just fly to california.' Which, in all honesty, is a valid point of view.

Ultimately, as long as women are given another reason to think twice about spreading their legs for random men on tinder, the desired effect is achieved.

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– almond_activator 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Rape exceptions seem more murky though. If you believe in personhood from conception then you probably oppose those exceptions, but who knows.

The infant is a victim of the rape, not the perpetrator. Why would I endorse punishing the son for the sins of the father?

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– deleted 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

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