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France has lowered their average IQ by 4 points in part do to immigration (archive.ph)
posted 4 years ago by Galean 4 years ago by Galean +75 / -0
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– xleb2 31 points 4 years ago +31 / -0

I like this part,

It is posited that the trend may have a partially biological cause, stemming from dysgenic fertility and, to a lesser extent, replacement migration.

Replacement migration, they admitted it. Part of the population they're IQ testing are not French - they're africans living in France and they know it.

Genetics matter in all living things, humans are not an exception.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0

dysgenic fertility

Read: Women waiting til 35 to push out a kid.

The most disturbing thought is that it could take generations to repair the genetic damage that has been done. It could take millennia.

Europe's population will never be the same again. The damage is already done. I weep.

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– alucard13mmfmj 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Older the eggs are, the more likely there will be issues with the baby. Higher miscarriage and higher cogenital defects.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That's absolutely ridiculous nonsense.

Germany split in two, and the East adopted communism, while the West had to mass import immigrants for labor. As bad as low-skill mass migration was, East Germans had a 1 SD deviance in IQ from West Germans, likely due to the effects of malnutrition and authoritarianism. As far as I can tell (30 years after German re-unification) that has recovered. Even with the current spate of mass migration.

I don't get how you guys don't see that the national average IQ is not, in and of itself, purely genetic. But is a statistical abstraction of something that is a measurement of other genetic factors. The fact that France's IQ has pushed lower is probably due to the fact that migrants are younger. Older populations have higher IQ, because your IQ plataeu's after it gets to it's peak, until you start facing slow cognitive decline after 40.

By aging alone, you would see an increase in France's average IQ.

The idea that 4 points can't be recovered in over 2,000 years is so ridiculous it defies any logical assessment.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I was actually not talking about IQ at all, but the genome as whole.

All the autism, all the allergies, all the other problems of the first world that only get worse with each generation. Some of it's going to be diet and physical inactivity. Some of it's going to be DNA.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I think that's still way over the top. I've got bad allergies too, but I have stuff for that, and I'm still working outside today. As for Autism, consider that they are still misdiagnosing boys literally being boys, as Autism.

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– FrozeInFear 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I think there is an aspect of this "dysgenic fertility" thing that may stick for some time. Women in first-world countries (I will include immigrants here) have been given greater incentives to delay motherhood over time. If more women have kids later in life (say, after 35), you'll see more kids with developmental problems, which may impact IQ in the population.
What may take "millenia" is a global cultural shift to foster (intellectually) healthier offspring.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I have a larger argument about female sex selection being the primary driver of overall IQ based on what the females perceive as a specific need in society.

I honestly doubt that due to sex selection pressures, it could be reversed in one or two generations.

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