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posted 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 +13 / -0
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– onetruephilosoraptor 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

This is too blackpilled and doomerism.

We must try to fix the federal level. It will be very difficult but if we think it is impossible and don't even try then we have no chance of succeeding.

Keeping Ron DeSantis at the state level is a complete waste of his talent.

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– acp_k2win 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

We fix the federal level by challenging them at the state level. We keep forcing "constitutional crisis" until either the feds publicly bitch but back down and the 10th amendment becomes a hard barrier between DC and the internal affairs of the states, or they go full 1984 and there is secession and insurgency.

In either scenario the federal government has lost any claim to "legitimate" authority.

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– Kaarous 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The correct strategy isn't either one, it's both.

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– BidenLikesMiners 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

It is both, however, sending based gov's to DC is going to work against the 2nd goal/

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– onetruephilosoraptor 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Your suggested method can be attempted while simultaneously attempting to try to fix the federal level.

Don't put all the eggs in one basket.

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– acp_k2win 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

fair enough but I would still rather keep desantis in florida because of how effective he has been there

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– NoGardE 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Advancements in decentralization are more important and more valuable than federal-level battles. We should win the federal battles when possible, but not at the expense of losing major assets in decentralization.

The Republican Party would love nothing more than for DeSantis to leave Florida and let them replace him with a Bush or a Rubio.

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– deleted 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0
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– TentElephant 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The federal level can be fixed. A witty man once said the only way to reform the British Foreign Office was to place a live coal under it and ready the fire brigade to contain it. Our witty friend's solution is necessary today for the State Department, although obviously without the fire brigade.

While DeSantis is good for Florida and provides a safe haven for many, he is too loyal to the system itself and too timid with power. He isn't going to declare himself the living constitution or even threaten to use his supporters to physically remove the opposition.

There is no incremental reform of DC. Either the current regime is removed swiftly and completely, or not at all.

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– Hand_Of_Node 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

We must try to fix the federal level.

Are you prepared to join in killing a minimum of 50,000 of them? They own the military, all federal law enforcement, and all intelligence agencies. It won't be easy, and would turn into a civil war before any fixing could be accomplished.

Even then, odds are incredibly high that they'd simply co-op the movement and bring the cabal right back in.

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