There is no way of knowing what the real truth is but imagine a situation like this:
You have a group of powerful people with access to resources and loyal goons. And these powerful people want to do things that are unpopular, like molest children, perform satanic rituals, etc. So these people keep their activities secret as best as they can.
Now the powerful people aren't dumb, and they know keeping secrets is nearly impossible with any significantly sized group of participants. This includes not only the powerful people themselves but their minions who may only be tangentially connected. People like drivers, bodyguards, maintenance workers, suppliers, assistants, etc.
So how do they keep from facing the consequences of getting their activities revealed? They reveal it themselves first but in a controlled manner. They manufacture evidence of the unpopular activity, but pointed at unrelated or maybe sympathetic and innocent people, that will eventually be discredited. Or they "leak" real evidence but to publicly discredited individuals "conspiracy theorists", who have cried wolf so many times that nobody believes them.
So now the truth now out there but there will never be a meaningful public outcry for consequences. And any future revelations forever will be associated with the past "doctored" stories.
If you had told me from 10 years ago that I would be taking Alex Jones seriously I wouldn't have believed you.
Another tactic with the same obscuring effect is putting the information out well ahead of time in the form of exaggerated fiction, as a book, through Hollywood connections, or random internet forums as goofball conspiracy theories. Contrary to expectations, getting exposure to as many eyeballs as possible makes it less believable when the truth is ever revealed. A fictional framing of a narrative or trope inoculates the mind against accepting it as real in the future.
"Area 51? Oh is that were the little green men are kept?"
"A fake president installed, brainwashed, and completely under the control of a secret organization? Yeah buddy I saw Manchurian Candidate too."
During Satan's temptation of Jesus, he quoted Psalm 91 (Matthew 4:6). Jesus knew that Satan was taking the verse too liberally (ironically, in a "Jesus, take the wheel"-manner). and rebuked him. The devil knows that the best lie is 90% truth... it's the remaining 10% that'll get you.
Completely justified, although it has the hallmarks of the media intentionally amplifying kooks as misdirection from real problems. For example, the Finders, which have already been mentioned, were involved in the McMartin preschool, which did have tunnels underneath it, but their extensive intelligence connections protected them. The FBI recently released the dox on them which confirms this. Here is a short documentary if that is more your thing.
Spez: Thomas777 recently did a podcast on this very topic.
Those docs don't confirm anything. There's two pages, completely devoid of context and authorship, with no apparent ties to the other Finders stuff (other than the Satanic Ritual Abuse subject) that claim that tunnels were found.
I suspect those pages were from Ted Gunderson's purported investigation. Ted Gunderson was a former FBI agent turned private investigator who claimed to find two tunnel openings on the property. Looking into Ted Gunderson, he seemed to be a complete crackpot. He believed in the Illuminati, mass child sacrifice in New York City, and chemtrails (he called them "death dumps").
Physical evidence for the tunnels:
Angry parents took shovels and a backhoe to the property to dig for tunnels. They found no tunnels, but the found a dead tortise and a broken toy, which they claimed were evidence of the existence of tunnels and animal sacrifice.
Another excavation occurred where differing layers of soil were found, with trash in them, which was claimed as evidence that the tunnels existed at some point. The latest trash was dated from the 1960's. This was consistent with the reports that the previous owners used ditches in the land to dispose of trash.
After the property was razed, some parents hired an investigator to use sonar to look for evidence of tunnels. There was evidence of some difference of soil density, not inconsistent with the previous owner's ditches. Inconclusive, overall.
Evidence against the existence of the tunnels:
The property was sold and the building was razed. The concrete slab foundation had no holes in it other than the ones for plumbing.
There was no physical evidence of any tunnels presented by the prosecution over the multi-year trial. In fact, AFAIK, the only physical evidence presented at the trial was photographs of the children's genitals as claims of sexual abuse, provided by the same organization that questioned the children.
To find the tunnel theory credible, you need credible answers to the following questions:
Who dug the tunnels?
There were a handful of workers there. How did they have the time and knowledge to create tunnels under a concrete slab floor?
Where did the soil go?
How did nobody notice the excavation taking place?
Who filled in the tunnels and how?
Once the police investigation started, how were they able to sneak in a construction crew and tons of soil unnoticed, and seal up holes in a concrete slab foundation so that appeared there were never holes in the first place?
Why dig tunnels in the first place?
Why not just use an empty room, or maybe an extra building on the grounds?
The only evidence for the tunnels was the statements given by the children. Some of the other statements by the children were:
Children would be flushed down the toilet, come out in a secret room where they would be abused, then cleaned up and taken back to the school.
Children would be taken by hot air balloon to a mountain to take part in rituals and abuse.
I think McMartin was a travesty. Well meaning adults questioned children until the children gave the answers that the adults wanted to hear, and ruined a bunch of lives as a result.
I actually see a similarity to this now with the explosion in "trans" children, with adults encouraging children to report their "real" gender identity until confused children give the answer that will get them praise and attention.
I'm old enough to have lived through the satanic panic. It was mostly a bullshit witch hunt. Pedos exist, bad parents exist... there is not a large underbelly of hidden ritualistic sex/blood cults in suburban America.
During this time my bother-in-law was taken away from his family because the school took him a slightly odd ADD kid locked him a room away from his Adderall and over the course of the school day convinced him to say his father was abusing him (his family got him back quickly, but It's scary what society can do very quickly when it stops thinking rationally)
A lot of the "evidence" for prosecutions that came out of this panic, were coerced testimonies from pre-teens against their parents. I don't know how many of you have tried to elicit testimony from a small child even about something as simple as who ate the candy, but they are crazy unreliable, even when they aren't guilty.
This is the same moral panic that tried to ban video games and D&D, which have no causal link to violence and/or suicide. Many of my friends could not play D&D because their parents were stupid.
The goal is avoid these witch hunts with all your being whether it's about racism in America, or sex cults in the churches, or even communist supporters in Hollywood [which was probably true, but didn't need the McCarthy response].
communist supporters in Hollywood [which was probably true, but didn't need the McCarthy response].
You're confusing the rambling, over-broad 'House Un-American Activities Committee' (HUAC) of the 1950s with Senator Joseph McCarthy's targeting of foreign agents in the State Department in the 1960s.
McCarthy went after literal communist infiltrators in positions of power, from a different legislative body, in a different decade than the Hollywood folks. The two have been conflated because there were communists in the State Department, and the communists in the media don't like people knowing about it.
A reaction to the obvious truth that is every bit as true today as it was now: The ruling elite are chock full of pedophiles and they get away with it.
However, then - just as now - the media, being an arm of the rulers, focuses solely on the schizos swinging in the wrong direction in order to discredit the entire notion.
Finders Documentaryt
There is no way of knowing what the real truth is but imagine a situation like this:
You have a group of powerful people with access to resources and loyal goons. And these powerful people want to do things that are unpopular, like molest children, perform satanic rituals, etc. So these people keep their activities secret as best as they can.
Now the powerful people aren't dumb, and they know keeping secrets is nearly impossible with any significantly sized group of participants. This includes not only the powerful people themselves but their minions who may only be tangentially connected. People like drivers, bodyguards, maintenance workers, suppliers, assistants, etc.
So how do they keep from facing the consequences of getting their activities revealed? They reveal it themselves first but in a controlled manner. They manufacture evidence of the unpopular activity, but pointed at unrelated or maybe sympathetic and innocent people, that will eventually be discredited. Or they "leak" real evidence but to publicly discredited individuals "conspiracy theorists", who have cried wolf so many times that nobody believes them.
So now the truth now out there but there will never be a meaningful public outcry for consequences. And any future revelations forever will be associated with the past "doctored" stories.
If you had told me from 10 years ago that I would be taking Alex Jones seriously I wouldn't have believed you.
Another tactic with the same obscuring effect is putting the information out well ahead of time in the form of exaggerated fiction, as a book, through Hollywood connections, or random internet forums as goofball conspiracy theories. Contrary to expectations, getting exposure to as many eyeballs as possible makes it less believable when the truth is ever revealed. A fictional framing of a narrative or trope inoculates the mind against accepting it as real in the future.
"Area 51? Oh is that were the little green men are kept?"
"A fake president installed, brainwashed, and completely under the control of a secret organization? Yeah buddy I saw Manchurian Candidate too."
During Satan's temptation of Jesus, he quoted Psalm 91 (Matthew 4:6). Jesus knew that Satan was taking the verse too liberally (ironically, in a "Jesus, take the wheel"-manner). and rebuked him. The devil knows that the best lie is 90% truth... it's the remaining 10% that'll get you.
Alex Jones' Infowars just filed for bankruptcy like yesterday.
Completely justified, although it has the hallmarks of the media intentionally amplifying kooks as misdirection from real problems. For example, the Finders, which have already been mentioned, were involved in the McMartin preschool, which did have tunnels underneath it, but their extensive intelligence connections protected them. The FBI recently released the dox on them which confirms this. Here is a short documentary if that is more your thing.
Spez: Thomas777 recently did a podcast on this very topic.
Those docs don't confirm anything. There's two pages, completely devoid of context and authorship, with no apparent ties to the other Finders stuff (other than the Satanic Ritual Abuse subject) that claim that tunnels were found.
I suspect those pages were from Ted Gunderson's purported investigation. Ted Gunderson was a former FBI agent turned private investigator who claimed to find two tunnel openings on the property. Looking into Ted Gunderson, he seemed to be a complete crackpot. He believed in the Illuminati, mass child sacrifice in New York City, and chemtrails (he called them "death dumps").
Physical evidence for the tunnels:
Angry parents took shovels and a backhoe to the property to dig for tunnels. They found no tunnels, but the found a dead tortise and a broken toy, which they claimed were evidence of the existence of tunnels and animal sacrifice.
Another excavation occurred where differing layers of soil were found, with trash in them, which was claimed as evidence that the tunnels existed at some point. The latest trash was dated from the 1960's. This was consistent with the reports that the previous owners used ditches in the land to dispose of trash.
After the property was razed, some parents hired an investigator to use sonar to look for evidence of tunnels. There was evidence of some difference of soil density, not inconsistent with the previous owner's ditches. Inconclusive, overall.
Evidence against the existence of the tunnels:
The property was sold and the building was razed. The concrete slab foundation had no holes in it other than the ones for plumbing.
There was no physical evidence of any tunnels presented by the prosecution over the multi-year trial. In fact, AFAIK, the only physical evidence presented at the trial was photographs of the children's genitals as claims of sexual abuse, provided by the same organization that questioned the children.
To find the tunnel theory credible, you need credible answers to the following questions:
Who dug the tunnels? There were a handful of workers there. How did they have the time and knowledge to create tunnels under a concrete slab floor?
Where did the soil go?
How did nobody notice the excavation taking place?
Who filled in the tunnels and how? Once the police investigation started, how were they able to sneak in a construction crew and tons of soil unnoticed, and seal up holes in a concrete slab foundation so that appeared there were never holes in the first place?
Why dig tunnels in the first place? Why not just use an empty room, or maybe an extra building on the grounds?
The only evidence for the tunnels was the statements given by the children. Some of the other statements by the children were:
Children would be flushed down the toilet, come out in a secret room where they would be abused, then cleaned up and taken back to the school.
Children would be taken by hot air balloon to a mountain to take part in rituals and abuse.
I think McMartin was a travesty. Well meaning adults questioned children until the children gave the answers that the adults wanted to hear, and ruined a bunch of lives as a result.
I actually see a similarity to this now with the explosion in "trans" children, with adults encouraging children to report their "real" gender identity until confused children give the answer that will get them praise and attention.
If you haven't heard about it, look up the Dutroux affair as well as the Finders case.
It was probably not just mass hysteria.
During this time my bother-in-law was taken away from his family because the school took him a slightly odd ADD kid locked him a room away from his Adderall and over the course of the school day convinced him to say his father was abusing him (his family got him back quickly, but It's scary what society can do very quickly when it stops thinking rationally)
McCarthy never even spoke about Hollywood publicly.
You're confusing the rambling, over-broad 'House Un-American Activities Committee' (HUAC) of the 1950s with Senator Joseph McCarthy's targeting of foreign agents in the State Department in the 1960s.
McCarthy went after literal communist infiltrators in positions of power, from a different legislative body, in a different decade than the Hollywood folks. The two have been conflated because there were communists in the State Department, and the communists in the media don't like people knowing about it.
A reaction to the obvious truth that is every bit as true today as it was now: The ruling elite are chock full of pedophiles and they get away with it.
However, then - just as now - the media, being an arm of the rulers, focuses solely on the schizos swinging in the wrong direction in order to discredit the entire notion.