Apparently the timeline of the discovery of the Bucha massacre (as reported by the NYT!) is questionable, since the mayor didn't mention anything about mass killings when the town was liberated. Also it neatly coincides with a Ukranian op to clear the area of "saboteurs and collaborators."
I gave Ukraine some benefit of the doubt about the news when it broke because the presence of dozens or hundreds of dead bodies to fake a massacre just seemed unbelievable. It seems I was at least partially wrong.
This scenario goes along with video of what's supposedly Azov (or another neo-Nazi group) accosting and killing civilians trying to leave Mariupol.
I find it at least plausible that the Chechen soldiers in Bucha executed civilians, but I would like to see better evidence. None of the links in your post are relevant to that.
Yeah?
Your first link says the Red Cross is back on their way to Mariupol after being detained overnight. Not much to be outraged about. You don't let a bunch of people pass through a checkpoint just because they're wearing red armbands.
Those bodies look far too fresh for the Russians to have killed them, especially since they left days prior
These bodies are decaying despite having laid in snow and low temp generally.
Its been above freezing in Bucha (and above refrigeration temperature too) for more than a week now, the hell are you talking about? Additionally, you should see signs of rigor mortis on bodies greater than 24 hours old, these bodies show no signs of that.
Unless somehow the Russian's snuck in a bunch of troops, in the presently militarily occupied by Ukrainian forces Bucha, and somehow managed to shoot a bunch of civilians without also attracting attention from the Ukrainian military....I don't buy it.
Survivor testimony naming Siberians (Buryats): https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1511350713435230217
The Economist is a trusted source now? I'm not asking rhetorically - this very well could have happened, but I don't think a journalist from that outlet is unimpeachable proof.
Actually "Chechens" testimony: https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1511429776673812488
The St. George stripes fit the description because many got just decked in these, like novelty Adidas stripes: http://d39raawggeifpx.cloudfront.net/styles/16_9_desktop/s3/articleimages/mezhidov_Cropped.jpg
(Speaking of St. George, there's a video of Georgian volunteers murdering Russian soldiers after an ambush on tank column.)
They say Chechen SOBR & Russian OMON were involved but it's too early to say. The OMON from Siberia got fucked in Bucha back in February: https://youtube.com/watch?time_continue=180&v=IdJzKJlVdUI&feature=emb_title I haven't heard any witnesses speaking of the Chechens in their testimonies, but the talks of like "older guys, over 40, in unusual uniforms like black" recall the descriptions of police detachments doing such things in Chechnya. Russian soldiers are usually young (recent conscripts who signed contracts) and wearing green.
Red Cross repeatedly tried for weeks now. It's not just "someone with armbands", they're emmisaries of the Geneva central of the International Red Cross / Crescent trying to organise an evacuation or at least the access for aid convoys. They've been trying many times for several weeks with the same effect.
Reports that International Red Cross were, once again, are unable to enter Mariupol.