Coming in a few days, endless reports of the Russian military killing unarmed civilians (who had just thrown molotovs or were shooting their government provided rifles before being dropped) and children. Plus calling any collateral damage, unavoidable in war, evidence of warcrimes.
Honestly believe nothing from either side as it's all propaganda and fog of war is real even in livestream age, but it's clear how American MSM is gonna play it. And Ukes the Ukrainian MoD are already trying to use videogame footage as real combat footage
Can't wait to be called a Russian bot by some faggot who bought into the end of history meme having a panic attack
It was an Ukrainian Su-27 shot down by apparently Russian SAM. What was seen at first was just videos of it falling in flaming pieces at night after exploding spectacularly so people speculated was it a plane or a big missile.
CNN is actually good there. Lots of accurate info early.
Reddit is claiming one man in Kiev shot down 8 Russians jets.
They then circle jerk about how Russians are propagandized.
I mean yeah, Russians are propagandized. But so are Americans, for somehow thinking Ghost of Kiev is a Call of Duty protagonist. The depressing part is they'll never actually see how retarded they are. They'll go to their deathbed in a fantasy world where everyone they like is a superhero and everything they hate is incompetent.
Yeah that's 100% propaganda written for Westerners who watch war films. It doesn't even pass the smell test. Supposedly when they popped up, there had been something like 9 Russkie planes shot down, of which the Ghost accounted for 8 of them. (Maybe it was 5/6, doesn't really affect the point)
You mean to tell me hundreds of thousands of dollars in AA equipment did absolutely nothing, but one man in an outdated jet with no ground radar support could easily take out multiple aircraft? Pure Hollywood
Honestly Snake Island sounds like propaganda too, but it's at least believable
The only thing that's real about anything I've heard about that is that there's probably a lot of Ukrainian pilots flying round-the-clock and getting little sleep. Downing 8 jets? In 2 days? Nah.
They weren't even killing the ringleaders. Just look how they pacified Kharkiv city (and with it the entire "Kharkov Peoples Republic") overnight with no loss of life.
I meant separatist ringleaders. Night 1 - they take over Kharkiv admin building and declare a People's Republic. Night 2 - SBU commandos raid the building, arrest some 70 (later exchanged), no one killed (some have died earlier in the clashes between protesters and counter-protesters and the attacks on police stations), the largest of the 3 people's republics is over.
It was in early 2014, the first phase of the "Anti-Terror Operation".
It didn't work out in Donetsk because a column of the SBU was ambushed by "Strelkov" and his Russians-from-Russia, killing 3 Alfa and turning them back. He later bragged about how he alone started the war.
"If our unit hadn't crossed the border, everything would have fizzled out — like in [the Ukrainian city of] Kharkiv, like in Odessa," Strelkov, who uses that nom-de-guerre meaning "Shooter" to replace his last name Girkin, was quoted as saying.
Coming in a few days, endless reports of the Russian military killing unarmed civilians (who had just thrown molotovs or were shooting their government provided rifles before being dropped) and children. Plus calling any collateral damage, unavoidable in war, evidence of warcrimes.
Honestly believe nothing from either side as it's all propaganda and fog of war is real even in livestream age, but it's clear how American MSM is gonna play it. And
Ukesthe Ukrainian MoD are already trying to use videogame footage as real combat footageCan't wait to be called a Russian bot by some faggot who bought into the end of history meme having a panic attack
It was an Ukrainian Su-27 shot down by apparently Russian SAM. What was seen at first was just videos of it falling in flaming pieces at night after exploding spectacularly so people speculated was it a plane or a big missile.
CNN is actually good there. Lots of accurate info early.
Have you heard the "Ghost of Kiev" shit?
Reddit is claiming one man in Kiev shot down 8 Russians jets.
They then circle jerk about how Russians are propagandized.
I mean yeah, Russians are propagandized. But so are Americans, for somehow thinking Ghost of Kiev is a Call of Duty protagonist. The depressing part is they'll never actually see how retarded they are. They'll go to their deathbed in a fantasy world where everyone they like is a superhero and everything they hate is incompetent.
Yeah that's 100% propaganda written for Westerners who watch war films. It doesn't even pass the smell test. Supposedly when they popped up, there had been something like 9 Russkie planes shot down, of which the Ghost accounted for 8 of them. (Maybe it was 5/6, doesn't really affect the point)
You mean to tell me hundreds of thousands of dollars in AA equipment did absolutely nothing, but one man in an outdated jet with no ground radar support could easily take out multiple aircraft? Pure Hollywood
Honestly Snake Island sounds like propaganda too, but it's at least believable
Don't diss the MiG-29, one of the sexiest planes ever.
Look how fake it is: https://twitter.com/sopbeen/status/1497214226485719045
The only thing that's real about anything I've heard about that is that there's probably a lot of Ukrainian pilots flying round-the-clock and getting little sleep. Downing 8 jets? In 2 days? Nah.
It's not even a meme to them, it's a fucking way of life. They wrote books on that shit.
When you said Ukes, I didn’t think you meant the actual Ukrainian ministry of defense. That’s a huge indictment.
Yeah. I should've been clearer and not just dropped the link there. Fixed it up for future readers.
oh my god the russians shot up an airport?
i dont know who's worse, the agressor or the ones pushing civilians to be cannon fodder into the slaughter to save their own skins
They want dead civilians so they can run to NATO for "help". I don't believe anything coming out about this.
The Russians did the same in Ukraine in 2014.
It was when this guy become a meme: https://i.insider.com/534d57cf69beddd376106b02?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp
Many wore just black tracksuits (and black ski masks) because of course. Especially in Crimea.
propaganda everywhere of course, but in 2014 they were going in there to kill the rebels.
this time around Russia does not want to kill the native populace, Putin is doing this to snag the working population as much as the land.
with a mountaint of salt of course, the disinfo is a part of this conflict almost more than then the combat itself
They weren't even killing the ringleaders. Just look how they pacified Kharkiv city (and with it the entire "Kharkov Peoples Republic") overnight with no loss of life.
the whole thing around Cymi and Kharkov was weird. They had the city surrounded by morning yesterday Ukraine time, and then just drove around.
looks like they are avoiding getting caught in population centres and threatening to let the chechens of the leash to pacify those
I meant separatist ringleaders. Night 1 - they take over Kharkiv admin building and declare a People's Republic. Night 2 - SBU commandos raid the building, arrest some 70 (later exchanged), no one killed (some have died earlier in the clashes between protesters and counter-protesters and the attacks on police stations), the largest of the 3 people's republics is over.
This is recent? What's your source? Not doubting just would like to read for myself, haven't heard these kind of details at all.
Everything I come across is just mainstream propoganda with fog of war
It was in early 2014, the first phase of the "Anti-Terror Operation".
It didn't work out in Donetsk because a column of the SBU was ambushed by "Strelkov" and his Russians-from-Russia, killing 3 Alfa and turning them back. He later bragged about how he alone started the war.
"Strelkov" bragging but he's right, it was him who did it: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2014/11/21/russias-igor-strelkov-i-am-responsible-for-war-in-eastern-ukraine-a41598
What a wonderful site. So useful and fair to users.
Friendly reminder that another Epstein associate was suicided recently.
Molotovs aren't bad ideas, but a) they will only work on light armored vehicles, b) make sure you know what you are throwing at.