I decided to try out tinder and discovered the site is absolute garbage. There are no real browsing options, interest selection is limited, there are fucking trannies who failed to properly disclose their status so they show up where they shouldn't, and it prohibits you from manually disclosing your location by forcing you to use location services.
Edit: Was likely banned for saying in the account description I hate regressive leftists and muslims, and also for saying I hate gender identity. Another possibility was that defending lolicon got me wrongfully banned for pro-pedo speech.
Dating is pretty much over. All quality people are no longer on dating apps. Birth rates keep going down. Relationships keep failing. There's no easy way to fix it like downloading an app. The problems are cultural.
This comment nails it. This shit won't change unless and until the feminism problem is dealt with.
Yeah in the UK news this week was about how 50% of 30 year old women are childless in 2020 compared to 18% in the 1970s
Shits fucked
Yeah, with statistics this compelling, it's not just a simple "well just talk right, hit the gym, improve yourself and you can live happily ever after with your own modern Cinderella."
Yeah... No, doesn't work that way.
Call me when they have the equivalent suicide rate.
I am becoming convinced that arranged marriages are going to be the only way out of this that doesn't involve harems or single mothers.
What good is an arranged marriage if the woman can just leave the marriage?
Dating is definitely harder, and most people are now brainwashed, but it’s still not too hard. Be in the top 20% of guys and you can still meet quality people. Work out, get your shit together, have a profile pic or two that doesn’t suck. I agree it was better before but on the flip side if you’re in the top 20% of men it’s also easier for you on the apps.
I've often said this but no on seems to get it. As a man, you can usually improve yourself to be in the top 20% of men or there about, this is true but you can't make women any better. The issue is that the quality of women has come way down. There really aren't enough quality women out there. Think about this. Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos can't even hold a wife down. You think you can?
The issue isn't that men need to try harder and you'll find a good woman, the issue is that there truly aren't any good women. Just some less bad than others.
If you're looking for sex, you can buy it cheaply enough or find it on Tinder cheaply etc... but finding a woman who is wife material is all but impossible even for the top 20% of men. The only men finding wives these days are men that get exploited by women so if you're a quality man who understands things, you can't accept such a relationship.
See you in two weeks, because that's definitely going to get R16 banned.
Two weeks? Come on this isn't my first rodeo. The mods will ban me 10 separate times for each word in my sentence and I'll end up suspended for 3 months at least.
The general quality of women have gone down but I’ve still found plenty of great people. Workout, be smart funny and articulate, have money and your finances together, and it’s easier to attract someone. A lot of girls are ‘made’ into marriage material by wanting to get with a quality guy, and you can still do that by being a quality guy. Market is worse today than it was before for most guys but you can still do well. I wouldn’t compare things to Elon and such because those are all workaholic guys that are space cadets and can’t find anyone really that’s not in part after their money. It’s a different game at that level.
I can't say I share your experience. I make well over 6-figures, own a house, I'm well-travelled, I workout, I'm smarter than most people, I'm articulate and I'm funny. I haven't found a decent woman. It's not for a lack of trying either. I've looked in almost every nook and cranny imaginable too. Even tried joining a Mormon church to find a suitable wife. My latest idea was trying some Hutterite colony.
I think lots of people underestimate how important age is. You describe "girls are made into marriage material', well this is true but only girls are. Once a woman is passed ~25-30yo, she's no longer that mouldable. Your ideal age is as young as possible, so like ~18-20. This is specifically why corporations like to hire new-grads straight from university so the corporation can indoctrinate the young 22yo with as much corporate propaganda as possible to shape the person into a good little corporate drone. Did you know investment banks almost exclusively all refuse to hire 30yo+ people into analyst roles? Why? Because they can't shape the people into what they want. They find 30yos have already solidified into the kind of employee they're going to be for the rest of their life by then. They almost only hire 22yos exclusively. You need to do the same thing with women to make them good wives but you are competing with social media, their friend circles, the corporation they work for, hollywood, etc... and while you as the man likely will win-out in the beginning, as time goes on usually these women eventually leave your domination and obey some competing force. This is why it's extremely common to see 20yo girls from small towns get married then divorced by 30yo. They submitted to the man in the beginning then rebelled against the man in the end. This is why younger women are both ideal but also pose high risk because their loyalty to you can be subverted easily by outside influences, which women have much exposure to these day.
Everything I just said something a 20yo man has no hope of truly understanding nor do many even want to believe what I'm saying. My words are something only a 30yo+ man could truly grasp but then the ability to acquire a 20yo woman at my age is nearly impossible. Women closer to my age are already locked into the personality they're going to have for the rest of their life and I can't mould it much anymore so what you're saying about just be a good quality man and the woman will do whatever you want her to doesn't really hold true for men my age anymore.
If I knew what I know now 10 years ago I probably could have had a wife but I missed the boat.