I don't get the point of that sub at all. Anti-work? What, do they think money grows on trees? Even a guy building furniture in his garage to sell on Etsy is working, it takes effort and sweat to make stuff. What do those people think, that replicators exist, that we can have the things we want without having someone work to make them?
A lot of the sentiment is against massive corporations that treat workers as a disposable resource. At this point no one can deny that the average workplace in America is really shit with no upward mobility and no security. That sentiment isn't inherently wrong.
It's also being fueled by increases in costs to living, taxes, hyperinflation, and rent. People being stressed because the world is going to shit under Biden.
Of course, there is the problem. They are only lashing out at their employers. A lot of them are adopting commie attitudes as well. Conservative ideas of just find a better job or make your own don't exactly work in the Biden economy and many of them are extremely brainwashed by the MSM to still think the openly fascist democrats aren't in large part to blame for this hell. If small business could flourish there would be a lot of better jobs with less toxic work environments and better compensation. But the democrats and rinos have destroyed that.
So whats left? If they went with conservative ideas they'd have to oust the current goverment and take years to fix the situation or they could demand more handouts which will only prolong the period of suffering, but they don't realize that.
The motivation's usually not just coldly calculated and personal outcome focused. The urge to even the playing field by any means necessary is a strong human instinct. I always remember an old experiment where two monkeys are happy to do simple "work" tasks in exchange for treats. Until they start giving one of them better rewards in front of the other's face, then the underpaid one starts losing its shit, throwing stuff at the experimenter and refusing the task entirely. And I definitely see that mirrored in a lot of actual people, the message of "don't fuck me around" is more important than the money sometimes.
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For places like antiwork tearing down those at the top of exploitative corporate culture is just as important as improving their own lot. They want to see Bill Gates drag his old ass to the bus and get his own groceries, they want to see Bezos try to decide if he can afford to get that weird lump checked at the doctor's this month. It's like crabs in a bucket mentality, but done kinda right, they're reaching past the crab slightly above them and trying to cut the hand that keeps shoving them all in a bucket.
You can't reason with them. I once posted a stating, very politely, that if they are against work then they are against bitcoin due to the fact that its value is derived from proof-of-work, i.e. the difficulty of finding a hash and the computational work needed to expend to find one is what gives it value. The post was removed and I was permanently banned.
75% of my 50% effective tax rate goes towards social programs.
A good way to think about it would be the fact I would likely be able to start a family with 50% more money.
I also think minimum wage/the current crazy consolidation of corporations has lead to some unique issues.
The fact that 100 companies have 90% of the money (making these numbers up) doesn't mean you'll get paid 10x or 100x for the same position at said companies which I think is a problem.
Give a man to fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats until his tired legs can't carry him to the next lake. Teach a robot to fish, does everyone eat or does everyone starve?
The information age has made it easier than ever to produce with with minimal effort. But we're still forced to compete for the privilege of having a job. The future we are headed towards is one where robots do the fishing, but we engage in weird shell games entertaining the robot owners to get the fish no one has to actually work for.
I don't get the point of that sub at all. Anti-work? What, do they think money grows on trees? Even a guy building furniture in his garage to sell on Etsy is working, it takes effort and sweat to make stuff. What do those people think, that replicators exist, that we can have the things we want without having someone work to make them?
They're the same type of people who when asked what they'll do after the revolution answer that they'll write poetry or design uniforms.
"I'll run a free communal garden in the and volunteer at shelters" "So why aren't you doing that now?" "I wouldn't get paid enough."
A lot of the sentiment is against massive corporations that treat workers as a disposable resource. At this point no one can deny that the average workplace in America is really shit with no upward mobility and no security. That sentiment isn't inherently wrong.
It's also being fueled by increases in costs to living, taxes, hyperinflation, and rent. People being stressed because the world is going to shit under Biden.
Of course, there is the problem. They are only lashing out at their employers. A lot of them are adopting commie attitudes as well. Conservative ideas of just find a better job or make your own don't exactly work in the Biden economy and many of them are extremely brainwashed by the MSM to still think the openly fascist democrats aren't in large part to blame for this hell. If small business could flourish there would be a lot of better jobs with less toxic work environments and better compensation. But the democrats and rinos have destroyed that.
So whats left? If they went with conservative ideas they'd have to oust the current goverment and take years to fix the situation or they could demand more handouts which will only prolong the period of suffering, but they don't realize that.
The motivation's usually not just coldly calculated and personal outcome focused. The urge to even the playing field by any means necessary is a strong human instinct. I always remember an old experiment where two monkeys are happy to do simple "work" tasks in exchange for treats. Until they start giving one of them better rewards in front of the other's face, then the underpaid one starts losing its shit, throwing stuff at the experimenter and refusing the task entirely. And I definitely see that mirrored in a lot of actual people, the message of "don't fuck me around" is more important than the money sometimes.
[Edit - Gah hit save early]
For places like antiwork tearing down those at the top of exploitative corporate culture is just as important as improving their own lot. They want to see Bill Gates drag his old ass to the bus and get his own groceries, they want to see Bezos try to decide if he can afford to get that weird lump checked at the doctor's this month. It's like crabs in a bucket mentality, but done kinda right, they're reaching past the crab slightly above them and trying to cut the hand that keeps shoving them all in a bucket.
They're basically the people portrayed here
You can't reason with them. I once posted a stating, very politely, that if they are against work then they are against bitcoin due to the fact that its value is derived from proof-of-work, i.e. the difficulty of finding a hash and the computational work needed to expend to find one is what gives it value. The post was removed and I was permanently banned.
75% of my 50% effective tax rate goes towards social programs. A good way to think about it would be the fact I would likely be able to start a family with 50% more money.
I also think minimum wage/the current crazy consolidation of corporations has lead to some unique issues. The fact that 100 companies have 90% of the money (making these numbers up) doesn't mean you'll get paid 10x or 100x for the same position at said companies which I think is a problem.
Give a man to fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats until his tired legs can't carry him to the next lake. Teach a robot to fish, does everyone eat or does everyone starve?
The information age has made it easier than ever to produce with with minimal effort. But we're still forced to compete for the privilege of having a job. The future we are headed towards is one where robots do the fishing, but we engage in weird shell games entertaining the robot owners to get the fish no one has to actually work for.
Technically true, but the question is about the ownership of the robot and its products.
It started as a sub complaining about