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A Proposal for School Reform in America To Prevent Complete Societal Collapse (youtu.be)
posted 4 years ago by peterlocker 4 years ago by peterlocker +16 / -0
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– cccpneveragain 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

His talk on retirement gave me some thoughts. This guy and a huge amount of people get caught up on the post-war and boomer concept of retirement. Retirement wasn't a thing anywhere close to the same way for most of the history of the world. You worked until you couldn't anymore, then you died.

He is stuck in the concept of a life being an education, followed by working the corporate job until you get to retirement age, then living out your "golden years" getting your pension checks while traveling the world. I don't really care for that concept myself. It really ends up being a disaster for most anyway.

I do think his education concepts are interesting and something I could work with. I struggle with the concept of totally abolishing public school. Yes, it's horrible and that may be needed I just can't find a path from no public school in anything close to a political environment that wouldn't end up as bad or worse. I don't care that some of the kids with crummy families won't get educated or whatever, but if they still get a say in the government, we are destined to get right back to where we are. So, I can't really say abolish public schools without major changes in the power structure of government.

I'd probably go more into a minimalization of school concept similar to what he is starting with here. Elementary school remains as a light education daycare for kids up to age 12. At age 13, schools become more independent and take up less of their time. General subjects are extremely limited to the basics. Math, basic science, reading, government, etc. Non educational activities (e.g. sports, clubs, any such things are completely and totally separated from education). Teenagers education would be limited to no more than two days a week, where the rest of the time they should be working on trade school or a job, apprenticeship, etc. I'm not sure I'd make the non-school stuff mandatory, but my intent in the hiring and continuing education market is if you have no marketable skills you can starve. The government is not to buoy lazy shits for any reason. I'm sure my thoughts are a bit of a flawed plan, but it's a starting place in my head, and also one that won't happen in my lifetime in any way.

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– peterlocker [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

His talk on retirement gave me some thoughts. This guy and a huge amount of people get caught up on the post-war and boomer concept of retirement. Retirement wasn't a thing anywhere close to the same way for most of the history of the world. You worked until you couldn't anymore, then you died.

Are you suggesting that your ideal is we return to that kind of world where when a person could not work anymore, they just died?

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– cccpneveragain 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I mean that's the harshest way to make it sound, but in a way yes. What I was more getting at is the way life expectancy has changed there's a longer gap between when someone expects to not work and when they expect to die.

What I was really getting at is I don't think the system works or is realistic. This notion of retirement is seen as an entitlement when it's really not. I think you'll see in the next ten years it really become a talking point as we're getting to the start of an age group where corporate pension wasn't a thing and all these people did nothing otherwise, but still expect to flip a switch and retire.

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