You aren't gonna win a lot to your side when you have zero things to offer except bitterness, paranoia, and hate.
Tradcucks offer the idea of stability and happiness of a nuclear family. TRP types offer base pleasure from raw hedonism. MGTOW offers some gay shit about enlightenment and freedom.
There is a reason depressed dudes keep joining them, and not you.
I'm on the far side of misogyny with him. I simply have a different perspective on it.
I'm not selling lies, I'm selling selling better. Which is what I've been telling him for much over a year now.
That's a noble idea about truth when you want to be the smartest person in the room. Its completely fucking useless when you are trying to enact change and you need other people to join you in it.
I spent many years in the field of Psychology and Therapy reaching out to and helping young men find at least some meaning and purpose in life. And even outside the field I have worked as an employer of a lot of similar men and offered guidance to them that way for many more years. A lot of which I did get to watch go onto bigger and better things, and most of which at the least got over the depressive spiral that plagues most young men these days.
None of which happened by opening with "women are evil and we have no hope for the future, there is no solution."
I wasn't recently born into this brochacho, I was an MRA decades ago now and most of this "selling yourself better" advice I learned from watching them crash, burn, and fail to accomplish anything along the way.
That's the same line atheists used, yet the moment we took religion from the masses look how quickly they fell apart.
I walked a mile in most "manosphere" groups outlooks and most of them made my life better regardless of them being truth, even with me knowing they weren't complete reality. The goal, however impossible, brought me power.
You aren't gonna win a lot to your side when you have zero things to offer except bitterness, paranoia, and hate.
Tradcucks offer the idea of stability and happiness of a nuclear family. TRP types offer base pleasure from raw hedonism. MGTOW offers some gay shit about enlightenment and freedom.
There is a reason depressed dudes keep joining them, and not you.
We offer the truth.
How you respond to it is up to you.
"Remember: all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more."
I'm on the far side of misogyny with him. I simply have a different perspective on it.
I'm not selling lies, I'm selling selling better. Which is what I've been telling him for much over a year now.
That's a noble idea about truth when you want to be the smartest person in the room. Its completely fucking useless when you are trying to enact change and you need other people to join you in it.
And what have you accomplished?
Where have you effected this change you're seeking, hmmm?
All is and will be as god wills.
I spent many years in the field of Psychology and Therapy reaching out to and helping young men find at least some meaning and purpose in life. And even outside the field I have worked as an employer of a lot of similar men and offered guidance to them that way for many more years. A lot of which I did get to watch go onto bigger and better things, and most of which at the least got over the depressive spiral that plagues most young men these days.
None of which happened by opening with "women are evil and we have no hope for the future, there is no solution."
I wasn't recently born into this brochacho, I was an MRA decades ago now and most of this "selling yourself better" advice I learned from watching them crash, burn, and fail to accomplish anything along the way.
You offer crushing misery instead of hope.
That's the same line atheists used, yet the moment we took religion from the masses look how quickly they fell apart.
I walked a mile in most "manosphere" groups outlooks and most of them made my life better regardless of them being truth, even with me knowing they weren't complete reality. The goal, however impossible, brought me power.
You offer whining on the internet and no self reflection. You're basically the average SJW without the commie shit.