I'm on the far side of misogyny with him. I simply have a different perspective on it.
I'm not selling lies, I'm selling selling better. Which is what I've been telling him for much over a year now.
That's a noble idea about truth when you want to be the smartest person in the room. Its completely fucking useless when you are trying to enact change and you need other people to join you in it.
I spent many years in the field of Psychology and Therapy reaching out to and helping young men find at least some meaning and purpose in life. And even outside the field I have worked as an employer of a lot of similar men and offered guidance to them that way for many more years. A lot of which I did get to watch go onto bigger and better things, and most of which at the least got over the depressive spiral that plagues most young men these days.
None of which happened by opening with "women are evil and we have no hope for the future, there is no solution."
I wasn't recently born into this brochacho, I was an MRA decades ago now and most of this "selling yourself better" advice I learned from watching them crash, burn, and fail to accomplish anything along the way.
None of which happened by opening with "women are evil and we have no hope for the future, there is no solution."
Right but, this discourse we're having right now...
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but my perception is that you're defending Roosh's judeochristian advocacy.
Now... I may be a Quaker heathen who thinks there's about ten-ish pages in the bible that actually matter, but even I know that abrahamic religions pretty squarely say straight out that yes, women are evil (and it's pretty much just my tiny little sect that is in the minority saying no they're not).
I'm not defending anyone specifically. I am disagreeing publicly with our boy Impossible1's methodology for his crusade, as someone who used to be just like him and his adapted a much more effective method to breed misogyny into men.
All these manosphere ideologies are some form of bunk, some more than others, but sometimes you just need a form of hope to pull yourself together enough for your own strength to do the rest. Which is why people are constantly turning to them, hope for something, anything to pull you out of a depressive spiral.
A rare few might be about to take that nihilistic "we are all fucked, there is no point trying" undercurrent he has to a sense of freedom, but its not a common end.
Women may be evil, that's a bigger discussion than this, but no matter how hard you rail against it men will in the majority desire them by instinct. Its better to try and prepare them and steer them smartly in that pursuit, than just try and hard stop them. Kind of like teenagers and doing dumb shit, in a way.
I'm on the far side of misogyny with him. I simply have a different perspective on it.
I'm not selling lies, I'm selling selling better. Which is what I've been telling him for much over a year now.
That's a noble idea about truth when you want to be the smartest person in the room. Its completely fucking useless when you are trying to enact change and you need other people to join you in it.
And what have you accomplished?
Where have you effected this change you're seeking, hmmm?
All is and will be as god wills.
I spent many years in the field of Psychology and Therapy reaching out to and helping young men find at least some meaning and purpose in life. And even outside the field I have worked as an employer of a lot of similar men and offered guidance to them that way for many more years. A lot of which I did get to watch go onto bigger and better things, and most of which at the least got over the depressive spiral that plagues most young men these days.
None of which happened by opening with "women are evil and we have no hope for the future, there is no solution."
I wasn't recently born into this brochacho, I was an MRA decades ago now and most of this "selling yourself better" advice I learned from watching them crash, burn, and fail to accomplish anything along the way.
Right but, this discourse we're having right now...
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but my perception is that you're defending Roosh's judeochristian advocacy.
Now... I may be a Quaker heathen who thinks there's about ten-ish pages in the bible that actually matter, but even I know that abrahamic religions pretty squarely say straight out that yes, women are evil (and it's pretty much just my tiny little sect that is in the minority saying no they're not).
I'm not defending anyone specifically. I am disagreeing publicly with our boy Impossible1's methodology for his crusade, as someone who used to be just like him and his adapted a much more effective method to breed misogyny into men.
All these manosphere ideologies are some form of bunk, some more than others, but sometimes you just need a form of hope to pull yourself together enough for your own strength to do the rest. Which is why people are constantly turning to them, hope for something, anything to pull you out of a depressive spiral.
A rare few might be about to take that nihilistic "we are all fucked, there is no point trying" undercurrent he has to a sense of freedom, but its not a common end.
Women may be evil, that's a bigger discussion than this, but no matter how hard you rail against it men will in the majority desire them by instinct. Its better to try and prepare them and steer them smartly in that pursuit, than just try and hard stop them. Kind of like teenagers and doing dumb shit, in a way.