I think it's been well been well established at this point that women (as much as women are worth anything in a combat situation) do okay at situations that involve holding steady, but are terrible at anything involving explosive action or quick decision making (or anything where their smaller size and inferior muscle mass are obvious disadvantages).
Bomber Pilot, Copter pilot, sure. There are probably enough capable men that it isn't necessary, but it isn't an explicitly terrible idea like making a woman a fighter pilot is. I'm pretty sure even male fighter pilots have to have excellent cardiovascular health to avoid readout, and they've got bigger hearts that pump more blood, and beat slower at rest.
I'm torn when it comes to women in combat. There's the obvious point that it lowers survivability of troops in general when women are present on the battlefield, but combat training is excellent at promotion of discipline and physical health, something we could all use a bit more of in this day and age. Maybe reserves only?
I'm torn when it comes to women in combat. There's the obvious point that it lowers survivability of troops in general when women are present on the battlefield, but combat training is excellent at promotion of discipline and physical health, something we could all use a bit more of in this day and age. Maybe reserves only?
The armed forces don't exist to promote discipline and physical health. They exist to win wars.
Combat units with women perform worse than units without women, therefore they should not be in combat roles. Let them sign up for a private boot camp if they're seeking discipline and improved physical health.
You're right, of course, but I still feel like the world would be a better place if everyone learned how to fight and got their ass kicked a couple times.
I agree, but it shouldn't be at the expense of tax payers. And let's face it, most women would quit as soon as they get punched once so it would be a huge waste of money.
Doesn't Isreal practice universal conscription (men and women)? Not signing up for a draft, but actually making them serve? There's precedent. And the haters on the Left AND the Right both say Isreal secretly controls everything, so they must have something going on properly to be that successful.
Better for men yes, more important is teaching the values of stoicism, dedication and self restraint with understanding violence. Plenty of men fight and learn nothing from it, there’s a reason every single great warrior society valued stoicism or the equivalent of it (hagakure). Could some women gain from this? Not really, concepts of self sacrifice are completely lost on a sex that’s only value historically has been surviving to breed.
I disagree. On the contrary I think it is more important for women to develop discipline in a focused manner as they seem far less inclined to do so by natural inclination, especially in times of peace. When times are hard women's behavior changes significantly.
The problem is that society stops treating them like adults when times are not hard.
I don't think women learning how to fight would be a good idea at all. They already talk constantly about harming people for existing, don't give them the tools to back up their words.
I think it's been well been well established at this point that women (as much as women are worth anything in a combat situation) do okay at situations that involve holding steady, but are terrible at anything involving explosive action or quick decision making (or anything where their smaller size and inferior muscle mass are obvious disadvantages).
Bomber Pilot, Copter pilot, sure. There are probably enough capable men that it isn't necessary, but it isn't an explicitly terrible idea like making a woman a fighter pilot is. I'm pretty sure even male fighter pilots have to have excellent cardiovascular health to avoid readout, and they've got bigger hearts that pump more blood, and beat slower at rest.
I'm torn when it comes to women in combat. There's the obvious point that it lowers survivability of troops in general when women are present on the battlefield, but combat training is excellent at promotion of discipline and physical health, something we could all use a bit more of in this day and age. Maybe reserves only?
The armed forces don't exist to promote discipline and physical health. They exist to win wars.
Combat units with women perform worse than units without women, therefore they should not be in combat roles. Let them sign up for a private boot camp if they're seeking discipline and improved physical health.
You're right, of course, but I still feel like the world would be a better place if everyone learned how to fight and got their ass kicked a couple times.
I agree, but it shouldn't be at the expense of tax payers. And let's face it, most women would quit as soon as they get punched once so it would be a huge waste of money.
Doesn't Isreal practice universal conscription (men and women)? Not signing up for a draft, but actually making them serve? There's precedent. And the haters on the Left AND the Right both say Isreal secretly controls everything, so they must have something going on properly to be that successful.
Better for men yes, more important is teaching the values of stoicism, dedication and self restraint with understanding violence. Plenty of men fight and learn nothing from it, there’s a reason every single great warrior society valued stoicism or the equivalent of it (hagakure). Could some women gain from this? Not really, concepts of self sacrifice are completely lost on a sex that’s only value historically has been surviving to breed.
I disagree. On the contrary I think it is more important for women to develop discipline in a focused manner as they seem far less inclined to do so by natural inclination, especially in times of peace. When times are hard women's behavior changes significantly.
The problem is that society stops treating them like adults when times are not hard.
I don't think women learning how to fight would be a good idea at all. They already talk constantly about harming people for existing, don't give them the tools to back up their words.
The most non talky non bitchy women I know are those that trained a martial art with men.