Can someone give an explanation of what happened here? I heard about the mod finishing and went to check it out, but it was no longer available for download. The message said something about one of the people who worked on it posted loli art or whatever it's called, and that's why they took it down.
It didn't really make any sense to me, honestly. I personally don't care if one of the fags who worked on it posted some degenerate drawings. And why would that make the mod unavailable for download? What really happened there?
The Frontier's situation blew up so epically and attracted so much attention that there's now a legion of videos explaining how & why it crashed and burned, from actually in-depth 30+ min vids to much shorter ones that are just ripping & memeing on the mod's carcass. Now I'm sure most, if not all, of these videos can explain the Frontier's downfall much more eloquently and entertainingly than myself, but to summarize what I've gathered from watching the situation unfold on a certain forum for the appreciation of New Zealander agriculture:
The Frontier was developed over several years, during which it built up an insane amount of hype. It was pumped up as this 'lore respecting' mod with writing so stellar that it'd show Bethesda how Fallout is done, cool new mechanics like drivable vehicles, and even briefly made it to E3.
Then it actually came out and uh, turned out to not live up to any of its promises save the drivable vehicles, to put it charitably. The writing was at best on the level of amateur fanfic (the Legion is woke and has fighting women, the NCR splinter's leader's characterization is completely contradictory, the plot is driven by the most obvious Legion spy in existence, etc), at worst a poorly connected string of scenes and setpieces blatantly plagiarized from CoD/Wolfenstein/Black Hawk Down/other popular shooters & war movies with the names changed and none of the context of the original scenes. It was also riddled with the devs' politics; most infamously they wouldn't let you play as the Enclave, who also have a fucking space station, because they're a 'racist, fascist paramilitary organization' according to the mod itself. (Nevermind that they're basically the American deep state and the Legion, which fits the 'fascist paramilitary org' bill much more neatly, are also playable)
The devs insist that their work is the best thing since sliced bread anyway, and actively picked fights on not just various Fallout fora but also, fatally, 4chan to defend it. Their opinion that the Enclave and its fans = Trump supporters became known around this time. They generally act like a bunch of pretentious, thin-skinned asshats which, of course, doesn't exactly endear them to anyone outside their bubble, least of all /v/.
People, both on and off /v/, started calling attention to the mod's downright filthy and unsettling fetishy side. Talking snakeman drugfiends living in a sewer whose queen you can bang, a bangable deathclaw, a quest where you fight a boss that brags about fucking his teenage slave in the ass, a supposedly just-turned-18 female redhead Asian companion who acts like she's 12 and can be mind-broken into being your slave, an encounter with another Asian girl character whose every other line of dialogue is blathering about how much sex & drugs she'll have once she turns 18 (meaning she's actually underage), etc. Unlike the politics, this stuff was considered pretty much totally indefensible even by left wing Fallout fans.
/v/ also found that ZuTheSkunk, one of the mod's icon and armor artists with a self-insert in the mod, left FurAffinity specifically in search of another furry hangout where he could post sexual content involving minors. And that that's what he'd been doing for the entirety of the time he was working on The Frontier.
The dev team panicked, deleted fucking everything, tried to blame ZuTheSkunk for all their scandals (despite him just having worked on the icons & armor for the mod, so he had nothing to do with the shit writing or the injections of fetish fuel) and quit both the Frontier and, at least in team leader TGSpy's case, modding in general. They have scattered from the burning wreck of their labor and are now trying to keep as low a profile on the Internet as possible, as far as I can tell. /v/ and the Farms ran a couple more searches before getting bored, finding that one of the actual writers previously authored a ghoul rape fanfic with over 100 chapters.
Wow, what an incredible odyssey. Thank you for detailing it for me. I no longer have any desire to play that mod. Also a ghoul rape fanfic with 100 chapters? Lol. Fucking clown world. What is wrong with human beings?
No problem, I think The Frontier is going to endure for many years more as an object lesson for future modders of how to not work and conduct themselves. This wasn't the only mod to spectacularly crash & burn amid scandal recently either, The New Order for Hearts of Iron IV (which its creator actually hoped would kick off his writing career...) also flamed out amid revelations of the mod team being a den of tranny sexual groomers targeting children & teenagers, acting abusively toward their code & localisation writers, injecting their retarded politics into the mod to the detriment of actual gameplay, etc. It's like someone spiked a whole lot of modders' water supplies in the latter half of the past decade.
Having read both Fallout Equestria (45 chapters, ~600k words) and a spin-off by another author called Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons (77 chapters, ~1.7mil words), it's not really focused on gore. There are certainly some gory scenes in it, but mostly it's just regular old Fallout fanfiction adapted to fit the MLP universe. If there is gore-fetish fanfiction, it certainly isn't popular enough that I ever heard about it, and certainly not as long as 100 chapters :/
Considering the high amount of unconsensual and/or underage sex in The Frontier on top of all the narrative trainwrecks, nonsensical writing and outrageously egotistical hack creators, I think Game of Thrones might be an even more fitting comparison.
Thanks for the summary, I was thinking about dl-ing it to try to experience the train wreck for myself, but on top of everything else it’s ten fucking gigs.
Can someone give an explanation of what happened here? I heard about the mod finishing and went to check it out, but it was no longer available for download. The message said something about one of the people who worked on it posted loli art or whatever it's called, and that's why they took it down.
It didn't really make any sense to me, honestly. I personally don't care if one of the fags who worked on it posted some degenerate drawings. And why would that make the mod unavailable for download? What really happened there?
The Frontier's situation blew up so epically and attracted so much attention that there's now a legion of videos explaining how & why it crashed and burned, from actually in-depth 30+ min vids to much shorter ones that are just ripping & memeing on the mod's carcass. Now I'm sure most, if not all, of these videos can explain the Frontier's downfall much more eloquently and entertainingly than myself, but to summarize what I've gathered from watching the situation unfold on a certain forum for the appreciation of New Zealander agriculture:
The Frontier was developed over several years, during which it built up an insane amount of hype. It was pumped up as this 'lore respecting' mod with writing so stellar that it'd show Bethesda how Fallout is done, cool new mechanics like drivable vehicles, and even briefly made it to E3.
Then it actually came out and uh, turned out to not live up to any of its promises save the drivable vehicles, to put it charitably. The writing was at best on the level of amateur fanfic (the Legion is woke and has fighting women, the NCR splinter's leader's characterization is completely contradictory, the plot is driven by the most obvious Legion spy in existence, etc), at worst a poorly connected string of scenes and setpieces blatantly plagiarized from CoD/Wolfenstein/Black Hawk Down/other popular shooters & war movies with the names changed and none of the context of the original scenes. It was also riddled with the devs' politics; most infamously they wouldn't let you play as the Enclave, who also have a fucking space station, because they're a 'racist, fascist paramilitary organization' according to the mod itself. (Nevermind that they're basically the American deep state and the Legion, which fits the 'fascist paramilitary org' bill much more neatly, are also playable)
The devs insist that their work is the best thing since sliced bread anyway, and actively picked fights on not just various Fallout fora but also, fatally, 4chan to defend it. Their opinion that the Enclave and its fans = Trump supporters became known around this time. They generally act like a bunch of pretentious, thin-skinned asshats which, of course, doesn't exactly endear them to anyone outside their bubble, least of all /v/.
People, both on and off /v/, started calling attention to the mod's downright filthy and unsettling fetishy side. Talking snakeman drugfiends living in a sewer whose queen you can bang, a bangable deathclaw, a quest where you fight a boss that brags about fucking his teenage slave in the ass, a supposedly just-turned-18 female redhead Asian companion who acts like she's 12 and can be mind-broken into being your slave, an encounter with another Asian girl character whose every other line of dialogue is blathering about how much sex & drugs she'll have once she turns 18 (meaning she's actually underage), etc. Unlike the politics, this stuff was considered pretty much totally indefensible even by left wing Fallout fans.
/v/ also found that ZuTheSkunk, one of the mod's icon and armor artists with a self-insert in the mod, left FurAffinity specifically in search of another furry hangout where he could post sexual content involving minors. And that that's what he'd been doing for the entirety of the time he was working on The Frontier.
The dev team panicked, deleted fucking everything, tried to blame ZuTheSkunk for all their scandals (despite him just having worked on the icons & armor for the mod, so he had nothing to do with the shit writing or the injections of fetish fuel) and quit both the Frontier and, at least in team leader TGSpy's case, modding in general. They have scattered from the burning wreck of their labor and are now trying to keep as low a profile on the Internet as possible, as far as I can tell. /v/ and the Farms ran a couple more searches before getting bored, finding that one of the actual writers previously authored a ghoul rape fanfic with over 100 chapters.
Wow, what an incredible odyssey. Thank you for detailing it for me. I no longer have any desire to play that mod. Also a ghoul rape fanfic with 100 chapters? Lol. Fucking clown world. What is wrong with human beings?
No problem, I think The Frontier is going to endure for many years more as an object lesson for future modders of how to not work and conduct themselves. This wasn't the only mod to spectacularly crash & burn amid scandal recently either, The New Order for Hearts of Iron IV (which its creator actually hoped would kick off his writing career...) also flamed out amid revelations of the mod team being a den of tranny sexual groomers targeting children & teenagers, acting abusively toward their code & localisation writers, injecting their retarded politics into the mod to the detriment of actual gameplay, etc. It's like someone spiked a whole lot of modders' water supplies in the latter half of the past decade.
fucking WHAT
Having read both Fallout Equestria (45 chapters, ~600k words) and a spin-off by another author called Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons (77 chapters, ~1.7mil words), it's not really focused on gore. There are certainly some gory scenes in it, but mostly it's just regular old Fallout fanfiction adapted to fit the MLP universe. If there is gore-fetish fanfiction, it certainly isn't popular enough that I ever heard about it, and certainly not as long as 100 chapters :/
Oh my God! This is The Room or Limbo of the Lost levels blithering incompetence. It's truly magical.
Considering the high amount of unconsensual and/or underage sex in The Frontier on top of all the narrative trainwrecks, nonsensical writing and outrageously egotistical hack creators, I think Game of Thrones might be an even more fitting comparison.
Thanks for the summary, I was thinking about dl-ing it to try to experience the train wreck for myself, but on top of everything else it’s ten fucking gigs.
A wrenched hive of scum and villainy