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A book on cancel culture was cancelled because the author was accused of Islamophobia after quoting parts of the Koran (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by Gladiator3003 5 years ago by Gladiator3003 +63 / -0
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– Gizortnik 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

What convinced me was the history of early Islamic expansion by the Kings & Generals channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2cEIDZwG5M

That's the thing about sometimes learning about a topic from a different field of study, they're not interested in maintaining the narratives in other fields. Military History isn't here to spin the narrative of about peaceful expansion. They're looking explicitly at military expansion. And to be clear, the presenters aren't being biased. They readily admit when they are likely biased because the only surviving source is from the Islamic sources... because the other sources were "lost" when the losers were fucking exterminated. They don't put that part in, but there's no other way to put it.

What is particularly galling about all the information from their own Islamic sources of the battles and conflicts, is that the Islamic sources repeatedly celebrated the complete and wholesale slaughter of civilians, retreating forces, and surrendering forces. Islamic sources never justified any Causus Belli for their wars, they just came from absolutely nowhere and started raising everything they could get their hands on. When the Persian and Roman Empires only finally understood what was happening, the Islamic war bands kept taxes low and promoted a semblance of freedom in captured cities, and then once the war was over and the imperial forces driven out, imposed extreme suppression.

The "religion of peace" nonsense is clearly just that when your own sources:

  • Celebrate indiscriminate and wholesale slaughter
  • Never justify any offensive campaign
  • Show that populations captured by your war parties are lied to in order to secure territory, and are then fully subjugated once there is no available opposition

The common thread among the Islamic Empire's early enemies is that they had no idea what they were dealing with until they were involved in a full scale war that they were now losing. This process repeats over and over again for hundreds of years.

The only other thing to take note of is that the Islamic Empire is constantly engaged in power struggles internally, and occasionally has to break from violent expansion to either suppress their own uprisings, or kill their own commanders so that the current established order isn't threatened.

Honestly, they remind me of the Klingons.

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– somercet 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

That's the thing about sometimes learning about a topic from a different field of study, they're not interested in maintaining the narratives in other fields. Military History isn't here to spin the narrative of about peaceful expansion.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! So much for that!

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/10/exclusive-former-west-point-professors-letter-exposes-corruption-cheating-and-failing-standards-full-letter/

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– Gizortnik 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I said fields of study, not "teachers".

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– w-duranty6489 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The masters of realpolitick.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You can't have realpolitick without any politicking.

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