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"Proselytization doesn't real" is not a valid argument. Yes many people's thing like this. I find it hard to think of a situation where any population has never thought like this.
Except it doesn't, and the resistance of the general population in Israel to accept African Jews is a big part of that. No, Jews can be quite wide array of people, some of whom do not really make their claims of Jewish lineage to be a major aspect of their lives.
And Germany had a Blood Citizenship law. Estonia actually has a similar kind of ethnic heritage policy where you can gain citizenship more easily, if I remember correctly. Ghana is trying to import Black Americans. Do you want me to act like there's something special about the fact that a country that birthed itself into existence with significant military support by radical, militant, Zionist Jews would instantiate an Jewish ethnic preference in it's immigration policy? Am I supposed to ignore the fact that the Right of Return policy has been hotly debated among Jews in American and Europe because in many cases it excluded them?
Which ones? This is your fundamental problem when you look at things from a collectivist, inter-temporal, abstraction. The group you want to identify as Ashkenazi are people who won't identify and European, individuals with Ashkenazi heritage in reality might not.
Ashkenazi are not a tribe, it's an ethnic group. There is no European tribe at all.
I'm sorry, but when you interbreed with Europeans for a thousand years, you are part of a European admixture. It's not my fault Jews of earlier millennia didn't understand genetics.
That's a ridiculous assertion. You can't just declare an entire demographic has a single attitude towards another demographic.
No. No one else go around calling themselves "gods chosen ones" meant to lead the "goyim" and that "goyim" is considered "beast" according to the Talmud
There was resistance to it because people doubted their lineage. But at the end of the day they still have the "right of return" that Europeans do not and Ashkenazi still identify with them more sooner than they identify with white European ,and they do not consider themselves white Europeans.
First Germany doesn't do it anymore, Second "Other countries do it too" does not debunk my point that the fact that the right of return law only applies to Ashkenazi Jews for being Jews, but does not apply to European, is the point, which is that they are different tribes.
Please speak proper English i have no idea what you are trying to say here. The only point i made is that Ashkenazi don't see themselves as European whites.
Well if you say that you are just showing your true colours now aren't you? And you ask why people mention the hatred against Europeans? There is a Jewish tribe but no European tribe? And i never said "Ashkenazi is a tribe" i said its a subset of the Jewish tribe.
Yes you can when you notice the reoccurring patterns and behaviors and how they talk about another demographic constantly .(And thanks for admitting they are different demographics)
1.) Yes. It's not my fault you don't know tribal history.
2.) Again, you're just making assertions based off of your own personal definitions of how the groups are defined.
3.) Germany stopped doing it as of the 2000's. My counter to your point is that your point isn't relevant, because it's not something unique to Jews. Your point doesn't make sense one way or another. Europe is not a tribe. Jews can recognize that Jews are also European. It is not either-or. Also, the Right of Return exists for many different types of Jews, not just Ashkenazi.
4.) You are using abstractions that you define, to speak on behave of masses of individuals. Y
5.) There is no European tribe because there has never been a European tribe. A tribe is a smaller and more homogeneous population category than a nation. There is no nation of Europeans because they are far too different. The continent of Europe is filled with utterly dissimilar people's who do not even have a common language. The unifying feature of Europeans, is that they live in Europe. Europe is comprised of many nations of peoples, many of whom have ancient grievances with one another. Those nations may be comprised of tribes, but they are more closely affiliated with class and clan. Are family clan's tribes? Maybe, but that seems like a stretch.
5-b.) So what of Jews? Jews are not a tribe. Hell, the Jews even cite that they comprise "the tribes of Israel". That is a recognition that even in their origin, they were not one tribe. They were multiple tribes, unified by a religion. You could call the Jews of that time period a nation, or proto-nation. "Jew" is an amalgamation of multiple tribes. Jews would be closer to a nation, than a tribe. However, Judaism is the unifying religion for Jews, and it has many different splits, divisions, and factions. The religion (particularly modern or reformist interpretations) supports a level of integration and assimilation that make it hard to even hold the "nation" title. Religions are not Nations. Nations are not Tribes. Tribes are not Clans. The Jewish struggle with Jewish identity might be one of the most exhaustively documented ideological conflicts that any people have ever had. But you keep treating them as if this is some homogeneous group that solved this question over 2,000 years ago. They didn't.
6.) You realize you can be part of more than one demographic, right? Actually, no, you probably don't given that you seem to be a racialist and you keep harping on the idea that Europeans and Jewry are purely separate and 'never the two shall meet'. This makes your comment about Ethiopian Jews seem especially disingenuous, given that you should be making the exact same argument that some Jews in Israel argue: "They're not Jews, they're Africans". Yet, you pointed out that Ethiopian Jews exist, but can't seem to tolerate the idea that European Jews also exist. You're taking up positions based on what you think might hurt your strawman's argument.
You are literally just trying to play a whole lot of mental gymnastics and semantics to try to defend your BS lies. I never said the right of return only applies to Ashkenazi i said the opposite of that and i also said that the fact that it doesn't apply to European just shows they are two different things.
.Also no shared European identity or lineage? Most Europeans would beg to differ ( And Jews are Semitic not European also Jews themselves have called Jews as a whole "a tribe" and a "tribe" is a people that follow a shared history, lineage and identity, which guess what? Ashkenazi and European do not.) . So i'll cut to the chase, end of the day, Ashkenazis are Semitic and identify as such (but keep trying to pretend that a Semitic group is "European" like Danish, or English are) and Ashkenazis themselves do not identify with Europeans , and when they pretend to its usually to attack or insult Europeans.
They do not identify with Europeans among themselves (and they say that). They follow the Semitic lineage first and foremost , being mixed does not change what they identify with which is being Semitic or Jewish first and foremost. .
The loyalties and identity is not there. And they do not identify with the demographic that they call "goyim" and "beasts" in their own Talmud (which you still have not addressed btw)
You can keep trying to pretend and lie and make all sorts of excuses in the world but we both know the truth . Stop lying and pretending.
Why would you think that the current Israeli government policy speaks for all Jews? That's ridiculous. Oh right, you probably have a National Socialist / Fascist perspective. The State is The People and The People are The State.
Most Europeans would agree. Meet some, try talking to them, and discover that they don't all speak English because they are wildly different people, with different cultures, values, philosophies, histories, experiences, political systems, religions, etc, etc.
Again, you're ignoring the fact that Semites and Europeans interbred. Yes, European Jews are a thing by both marriage, conversion, and de-conversion.
I never said that.
You're asserting that out of nothing.
So that identity is a social construct, is it? That would make it even easier to identify European Jews.
Most Europeans don't have "loyalties" to Europe. They have their own individual nations of people, and states that they may be loyal to. Pan-Europeanism is as ridiculous as Pan-Africanism.
Why should I address it? Holy Books say stupid shit sometimes. What matters is whether or not anyone cares about internalizing that portion of scripture. I don't think your prepared to recognize the nuance between Secular Jews, Ethnic Jews, Religious Jews, Israeli Jews, and other such insular division among Jews to actually understand that just because the Talmud says a thing, it doesn't mean every Jew utterly internalizes that thing.
These aren't excuses, their failures in your own reductive narrative.