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You are literally just trying to play a whole lot of mental gymnastics and semantics to try to defend your BS lies. I never said the right of return only applies to Ashkenazi i said the opposite of that and i also said that the fact that it doesn't apply to European just shows they are two different things.
.Also no shared European identity or lineage? Most Europeans would beg to differ ( And Jews are Semitic not European also Jews themselves have called Jews as a whole "a tribe" and a "tribe" is a people that follow a shared history, lineage and identity, which guess what? Ashkenazi and European do not.) . So i'll cut to the chase, end of the day, Ashkenazis are Semitic and identify as such (but keep trying to pretend that a Semitic group is "European" like Danish, or English are) and Ashkenazis themselves do not identify with Europeans , and when they pretend to its usually to attack or insult Europeans.
They do not identify with Europeans among themselves (and they say that). They follow the Semitic lineage first and foremost , being mixed does not change what they identify with which is being Semitic or Jewish first and foremost. .
The loyalties and identity is not there. And they do not identify with the demographic that they call "goyim" and "beasts" in their own Talmud (which you still have not addressed btw)
You can keep trying to pretend and lie and make all sorts of excuses in the world but we both know the truth . Stop lying and pretending.
Why would you think that the current Israeli government policy speaks for all Jews? That's ridiculous. Oh right, you probably have a National Socialist / Fascist perspective. The State is The People and The People are The State.
Most Europeans would agree. Meet some, try talking to them, and discover that they don't all speak English because they are wildly different people, with different cultures, values, philosophies, histories, experiences, political systems, religions, etc, etc.
Again, you're ignoring the fact that Semites and Europeans interbred. Yes, European Jews are a thing by both marriage, conversion, and de-conversion.
I never said that.
You're asserting that out of nothing.
So that identity is a social construct, is it? That would make it even easier to identify European Jews.
Most Europeans don't have "loyalties" to Europe. They have their own individual nations of people, and states that they may be loyal to. Pan-Europeanism is as ridiculous as Pan-Africanism.
Why should I address it? Holy Books say stupid shit sometimes. What matters is whether or not anyone cares about internalizing that portion of scripture. I don't think your prepared to recognize the nuance between Secular Jews, Ethnic Jews, Religious Jews, Israeli Jews, and other such insular division among Jews to actually understand that just because the Talmud says a thing, it doesn't mean every Jew utterly internalizes that thing.
These aren't excuses, their failures in your own reductive narrative.
You seriously are trying to say "its just the state"? Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now? Trying to pretend its "just the state" as if you are trying to pretend that any Jew would approve of having Israel's right of return laws include Europeans or any other non-Jew? Are you just trying to troll?
Second this whole arguement from the beginning was you trying to pretend that there isn't a prevalent hatred against Europeans from jews, because "muh ashkenazis are european " cAuSe mIxINg and i have debunked that and you have tried to pretend that ashkenazis have no hate against Europeans and that a semitic group is somehow european when they are no where near that and they do not even identify as such and follow a different lineage, history and identity and non stop attack against europeans . They will only say they are when its convenient to them but will say they are not when its not. They will say they are especially when they feel like attacking Europeans with "muh fellow white people stop oppressing others" comments.
( Also if they truly are against the whole passage about "goyims and beasts" they would be openly condemning it but i never hear of them doing so . And do not pretend that a lot dont take it to heart ) .
. And you try to gaslight in to completely different topics altogether just to try to push a lie.. (but of course right?)
But if you still want to argue about it i'll send these to you. Straight from the horses mouth
https://archive.is/DkDDu,
https://archive.is/yZvgM
Comments from Ashkenazis :
"mult-generational Jews are not white people. We are not white people. Call me anything but a "white person" .... Hallelujah ..."
" I look "white" but always check "other" on forms. I am proud of what Jews contributed to humanity. However, I feel that our connection to Europe is a tragic incident in history. We are an old race. Why not be proud of it? What is so great about being European?"
"i dont see myself as white,although i was born in the u.k,my heritage is Askenazi "Lewin" and "Baker",are my family names,i agree that by deeming yourself as a white european,instead of a middle eastern diaspora jew,you are watering down your TRUE indentity,and denying your heritage. .....Am Yisrael Chai..John "Yoni"Andrews,Tipton,U.K"
No. No. Jews have been arguing about how the Right To Return law is supposed to work for decades. No.
"You have been de-BOOONKED! Check mate, non-racists.' Now, I'm trolling a little. But really, you haven't done anything. You've retreated to "Jews are social construct", which is a worse position for you to take.
These are just you asserting a bunch of ridiculous anti-Jewish tropes.
They probably take the same approach that Christians take in regards to that one passage about God summoning a bears to maul children. They a) don't know about it, b) don't really care that that's a weird and obscure story, c) have some sort of rationalization about how that's not what it really means.
"Two Jews, three opinions". Yes, there are going to be some Jews that have one opinion, and there are going to be other Jews that have another opinion, and there's probably gonna be another opinion in there argued by the same Jews who just took a different opinion. Congratulations on finding some Jews with an opinion. None of these people can speak officially on behalf of Jewry. These are op-ed hot takes by talking heads.
Frankly, what I see here are a bunch of whiny Jews crying how they don't want to be white because it would cost them oppression points in their Social Justice cliques. However, that doesn't change what their actual lineage is. Kind of like a beta male crying that he's really an aerogender super-queer. But we know he's a male.
Now, if you really want to argue that what they are doesn't matter, just what they identify as, we can go down that route, but it's going to only hurt your argument more to claim that race is a social construct. And sure, there's an argument there about intertemporal abstractions being over-zealously applied in a reductive way, but I really think you want to avoid that argument.
yes and im SURE those arguments included talks about how non-jews should be included in right of return laws. Oh wait of course they dont.
The Christian passage is from the old testament. Which is also part of Judaism i can ask why it is that Judaism has this stuff in it. But regardless no one refers to it anyways and it doesn't really target any particular group, but the non stop talk about jews being "better'' and the attacks and insults against "goys" is everywhere in Judaism's books especially the Talmud. And many jews still call people "goys" and talk down on "goys" and there are rabbis that openly say "goys" are lesser or should be slaves with pretty much no backlash .
Your arguement (over the many examples i showed you straight from the horses mouth) boils down to "not all jews" .Go play with the "not all [insert group here]" etc. crowd . . Dont pretend this is not the majority opinion .
Stop gaslighting. i didn't say race is a social construct i said they follow different genetic lineage and identity(semitic).
Race=lineage & identity. And its hilarious you think one group should accept another that will not accept them and that constantly works against them.
But if you want to carry on lying, pretending , gas lighting and arguing for the sake of arguing to get the last word, then go on right ahead , not interested with talking to you anymore
You being wrong doesn't make me a liar.