At the moment, American exceptionalism is still valid, but that it's exceptionally bad. I don't think that even in Sweden the corrupt elites would justify and defend their own cities being torched by mobs of savages.
I don't think that even in Sweden the corrupt elites would justify and defend their own cities being torched by mobs of savages.
Look man, we made a bet about Sweden being "that bad" and Tim Pool went and proved it was. They don't defend it because they just don't acknowledge places like Malmo.
I know you are on a full anti-America kick, and I don't blame you for it, but lets keep things in proper context.
Look man, we made a bet about Sweden being "that bad" and Tim Pool went and proved it was.
I do not remember ever making such a bet. Sweden is a trainwreck and has been for a very long time. Malmo is a disaster in the way that Baltimore is.
That said, it is just 'ordinary' crime and gang violence and Islamic enrichment. What is not yet happening is mass rioting, looting and burning in the manner that is taking place in America, and having an entire political faction either claim that it's justified or that it is 'peaceful'.
I'm honestly rooting for the good guys in your country. But I don't have much hope that you are going to prevail. The rottenness of the elites (ours are rotten as well) that has been revealed is not going to be fixed, not with an election, and even if you started today, it would take decades to make it remotely bearable. That is more than enough to push your country over the edge.
And don't think that I think that we are immune. At best, we're only 10 years behind on schedule. The wages of identiarianism are coming. And we don't even have any way of defending ourselves when it comes for us.
I know you are on a full anti-America kick
I'm ambivalent. I like some Americans a lot, and I hate some Americans a lot.
I meant "We" as Americans. It was a big thing. Trump made a comment about what a shithole Sweden was. Someone offered a bounty to go prove him wrong, Tim Pool was the man who did it. He went in trying to disprove Trump and ended up getting redpilled hard.
That was what catapulted him to relevancy in this culture war and was the start of his descent.
What is not yet happening is mass rioting, looting and burning in the manner that is taking place in America, and having an entire political faction either claim that it's justified or that it is 'peaceful'.
This is entirely personal bias. We have much horrific shit, but we don't have absurd numbers of grenade attacks. Fisticuffs and fires are far less dangerous than a single grenade, let alone the amount they get. And even then, tit for tat both are pretty far down the horrific scale, so its just subjectivity to really compare it.
But, their government is literally suppressing the data (that's why we had to send in a fucking bounty journalist on it) and the populace just rolls over for it. They barely have a pushback on it to need for a faction to claim its justified.
The only reason it seems less bad to you is because Sweden itself is irrelevant so whatever happens there is pretty meaningless outside of there. And I'm quite sorry every country in Europe laps up America's shit like a starving dog, but that doesn't make our internal, personal problems somehow way worse.
I'm ambivalent.
It was a comment on how you have spent the last few days posting nothing but doomer tier "America is so fucked" remarks. Not that I blame you, but you are letting it taint your perspective.
This is entirely personal bias. We have much horrific shit, but we don't have absurd numbers of grenade attacks. Fisticuffs and fires are far less dangerous than a single grenade, let alone the amount they get. And even then, tit for tat both are pretty far down the horrific scale, so its just subjectivity to really compare it.
The point is not that grenades are good, it's that just like the gang shootings that take place in say Baltimore, they are ordinary crime and gang warfare. The radical left has a long record of defending criminals and refusing to crack down on crime, claiming that society is to blame for gang shootings instead.
For that reason, I regard Malmo as business as usual. Even then, there are not masses of Swedish idiots defending or justifying what happens in Malmo. Denial is the worst you're going to get.
The dangerous thing about the BLM riots is that people are actually defending political violence and deadly rioting, which is the death knell for any civilized state in a way that ordinary, meaningless violence is not.
It was a comment on how you have spent the last few days posting nothing but doomer tier "America is so fucked" remarks. Not that I blame you, but you are letting it taint your perspective.
I've been a doomer ever since the backlash against the BLM terrorism failed to materialize. Initially, I was hoping that this would be the turning point, but watched with ever greater amazement that terrorism empowered them instead. If I have talked more about it in the past few days, that is just coincidence, as this is what I have believed since at least early June.
At the moment, American exceptionalism is still valid, but that it's exceptionally bad. I don't think that even in Sweden the corrupt elites would justify and defend their own cities being torched by mobs of savages.
Look man, we made a bet about Sweden being "that bad" and Tim Pool went and proved it was. They don't defend it because they just don't acknowledge places like Malmo.
I know you are on a full anti-America kick, and I don't blame you for it, but lets keep things in proper context.
I do not remember ever making such a bet. Sweden is a trainwreck and has been for a very long time. Malmo is a disaster in the way that Baltimore is.
That said, it is just 'ordinary' crime and gang violence and Islamic enrichment. What is not yet happening is mass rioting, looting and burning in the manner that is taking place in America, and having an entire political faction either claim that it's justified or that it is 'peaceful'.
I'm honestly rooting for the good guys in your country. But I don't have much hope that you are going to prevail. The rottenness of the elites (ours are rotten as well) that has been revealed is not going to be fixed, not with an election, and even if you started today, it would take decades to make it remotely bearable. That is more than enough to push your country over the edge.
And don't think that I think that we are immune. At best, we're only 10 years behind on schedule. The wages of identiarianism are coming. And we don't even have any way of defending ourselves when it comes for us.
I'm ambivalent. I like some Americans a lot, and I hate some Americans a lot.
I meant "We" as Americans. It was a big thing. Trump made a comment about what a shithole Sweden was. Someone offered a bounty to go prove him wrong, Tim Pool was the man who did it. He went in trying to disprove Trump and ended up getting redpilled hard.
That was what catapulted him to relevancy in this culture war and was the start of his descent.
This is entirely personal bias. We have much horrific shit, but we don't have absurd numbers of grenade attacks. Fisticuffs and fires are far less dangerous than a single grenade, let alone the amount they get. And even then, tit for tat both are pretty far down the horrific scale, so its just subjectivity to really compare it.
But, their government is literally suppressing the data (that's why we had to send in a fucking bounty journalist on it) and the populace just rolls over for it. They barely have a pushback on it to need for a faction to claim its justified.
The only reason it seems less bad to you is because Sweden itself is irrelevant so whatever happens there is pretty meaningless outside of there. And I'm quite sorry every country in Europe laps up America's shit like a starving dog, but that doesn't make our internal, personal problems somehow way worse.
It was a comment on how you have spent the last few days posting nothing but doomer tier "America is so fucked" remarks. Not that I blame you, but you are letting it taint your perspective.
The point is not that grenades are good, it's that just like the gang shootings that take place in say Baltimore, they are ordinary crime and gang warfare. The radical left has a long record of defending criminals and refusing to crack down on crime, claiming that society is to blame for gang shootings instead.
For that reason, I regard Malmo as business as usual. Even then, there are not masses of Swedish idiots defending or justifying what happens in Malmo. Denial is the worst you're going to get.
The dangerous thing about the BLM riots is that people are actually defending political violence and deadly rioting, which is the death knell for any civilized state in a way that ordinary, meaningless violence is not.
I've been a doomer ever since the backlash against the BLM terrorism failed to materialize. Initially, I was hoping that this would be the turning point, but watched with ever greater amazement that terrorism empowered them instead. If I have talked more about it in the past few days, that is just coincidence, as this is what I have believed since at least early June.