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SupremeReader -1 points ago +1 / -2

Bandera spent most of the war in a German concentration camps, they killed his brothers and thousands of his followers (who also killed lots of Germans).

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SupremeReader -1 points ago +1 / -2

What the fuck is "creeping defense" lmao

You just made it up right now.

They're the ones who are supposed to be on attacking not defending. Good lord you're so retarded.

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SupremeReader -2 points ago +1 / -3

Sever should have never even been reinforced and defended, just evacuated right away, when there were still bridges (blow them up behind them). It was a way too risky gambit, they could've been surrounded totally. But they did really well and withdrew across the river.

We both know you have never even heard about this "vital point" (a random industrial town sandwiched between enemy territory and river) before they decided to make a stand there. If you really believed anyone who told it eas any "vital point", you're just stupid. Hey, you are stupid.

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SupremeReader 6 points ago +7 / -1

Kagame killed way more people than Amin, but his opinion about Zuma is on point.

https://youtu.be/waE-TYEKKCE

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SupremeReader 0 points ago +2 / -2

That's what it is about. Nothing else.

And the looming catastrophe in Africa would result in untold millions of actual refugees desperately fleeing the starvation to Europe, for one. Among so many other ripple effects. Africa is where we mine stuff, where we sail commerce from Asia (already dodging skinny Somali pirates, and with Egypt in chaos even the Suez would be blocked with actual military weapons), and so forth. Everything would be disrupted in disastrous ways. Besides they would also eat all these endangered animals from the reserves, and so on. The Islamic State taking over entire countries. Just so many different things. A continental apocalypse and global peril too.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +2 / -1

America doesn't have anything to do with Ukrainian politics.

This awkwardly close relationship between a liberal-democratic state supported by the West and armed proponents of a very different ideology has caused some discomfort in the past for Ukraine’s Western backers. The US Congress has gone back and forth in recent years on whether Azov should be blocked from receiving American arms shipments, with Democrat lawmakers even urging in 2019 that Azov be listed as a global terrorist organisation.

On that:

On Wednesday, New York Rep. Max Rose, who chairs the counterterrorism subcommittee, submitted a letter to the State Department, co-signed by 39 members of Congress. It urged the department to designate Azov Battalion (a far-right paramilitary regiment in Ukraine), National Action (a neo-Nazi group based in the U.K.), and Nordic Resistance Movement (a neo-Nazi network from Scandinavia) as terrorist organizations.

He called it a battalion repeatedly. Ironically didn't even mention the civilian movement.

James Mason (the Siege/Atomwaffen granpa, he looked just like Goebbels when he was young and in the American Nazi Party editing their newsletter) is a huge fan of Azov.

https://www.dailyveracity.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-06-30-at-6.35.06-PM-1024x594.png

That's more of the American connection, even if pretty one sided.

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SupremeReader 0 points ago +1 / -1

Hero of the Russian Federation, yes. The same golden star.

Ramzan liked to pretend he also fought the Russians. He didn't, he was a driver for his dad.

And he never fought against anyone personally, nor commanded any fight.

Disappointing because I wanted him to end up like the protagonist of Johnny Got His Gun after he pretended he's going to Ukraine with his dork sons all dressed up for war.

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SupremeReader 0 points ago +1 / -1

It's illegal annexing.

Saved and see you after the final victory.

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SupremeReader 0 points ago +1 / -1

Also did you read what I wrote, and do you actually watch the war at all?

Or did I really waste my time for minimal effort trolling.

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SupremeReader 0 points ago +1 / -1

It's not a quote, it's a picture, with maps. Go and see maps of the progress of the war just anywhere you want.

Especially of the northern fronts, because others basically didn't change since the first month.

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SupremeReader 0 points ago +1 / -1

Of course they killed Russians. Ramzan's dad (like him, a Hero of Russia) called for the Chechens to kill "as many as they can" when declaring the jihad in 1994.

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SupremeReader 0 points ago +1 / -1

Grozny as in Grozny city.

Which was rebuilt or rather built anew with the extremely lavish Moscow money completely. Like the biggest mosque in Europe (fuck you Turkey).

Imperovished neighbours like Dagestan or Ingushetia only wish they had anything close this unique relationship. Should've killed more Russians do they would be paid for loyalty too.

Check out Kadyrov's golden palaces or his fleets or luxury cars sometime. This chunky boi is like Uday Hussein.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +3 / -2

Heres one article in some basic plain terms that should be easy for Westerners to understand:

In this, the current war has surely come as a blessed relief for Azov. Biletsky’s attempt to found a political party — the National Corps — met with almost zero success, with even a united bloc of Ukraine’s far- and extreme Right-wing parties failing to clear the very low hurdle for parliamentary representation in the last election: Ukrainian voters simply do not want what they are selling, and reject their worldview. Yet in time of war, Azov and similar groups come to the forefront, with the Russian invasion seemingly reversing the downward spiral that set in for them following Avakov’s resignation due to international pressure. Judging by their social media, Azov’s armed units are expanding: they’re forming new battalions in Kharkiv and Dnipro, a new special forces unit in Kyiv (where Biletsky is organising at least some aspects of the capital’s defence) and local defence militias in western cities such as Ivano-Frankivsk.

Like Ukraine’s other extreme Right-wing militias, Azov are dogged, disciplined and committed fighters, which is why the weak Ukrainian state has found itself forced to rely upon their muscle during its hours of greatest need: during the Maidan revolution, during the war against separatists from 2014 onwards, and now to fend off the Russian invasion. There has been a certain new-found reticence abroad to speak frankly about their role, no doubt for fear that doing so will provide ammunition for Russian propaganda. This fear is surely misplaced: after all, groups such as Azov are only prominent precisely because of Russia’s meddling in Ukraine. Instead of de-Nazifying the country, Russian aggression has helped solidify the role and presence of extreme Right-wing factions in Ukraine’s military, reinvigorating a waning political force rejected by the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians.

If anything, the primary threat posed by groups such as Azov is not to the Russian state — Russia happily supports extreme Right-wing elements in its Wagner mercenary group and in the separatist republics, after all — nor to Western nations whose disaffected citizens may find themselves drawn to a combat role alongside them. Instead, the threat is to the future stability of the Ukrainian state itself, as Amnesty and Human Rights Watch have long warned. While they may be useful now, in the event of the decapitation or evacuation of Ukraine’s liberal government from Kyiv, perhaps to Poland or Lviv, or more likely, in the event of Zelenskyy being forced by events to sign a peace deal surrendering Ukrainian territory, groups like Azov may find a golden opportunity to challenge what remains of the state and consolidate their own power bases, even if only locally.

Back in 2019, I asked Semenyaka if Azov still saw itself as a revolutionary movement. Thinking carefully, she replied, “We are ready for different scenarios. If Zelenskyy is even worse than [ex-president] Poroshenko, if he is the same kind of populist, but without certain skills, connections and background, then, of course, Ukrainians would be heavily in danger. And we have already developed a plan of what can be done, how we can develop parallel state structures, how we can customise these entry strategies to save the Ukrainian state, if [Zelenskyy] would become a puppet of the Kremlin, for instance. Because it’s quite possible.”

Senior Azov figures have been explicit, over the course of years, in stating that Ukraine has unique potential as a springboard for the “reconquest” of Europe from liberals, homosexuals and immigrants. While their broader contintental ambitions may have a very doubtful chance of success, a broken, impoverished and angry postwar Ukraine, or worse, a Ukraine suffering years of bombardment and occupation with large areas outside central government control, would surely be a fertile breeding ground for a form of extreme Right-wing militancy not seen in Europe for many decades.

https://unherd.com/2022/06/the-truth-about-ukraines-nazi-militias/

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SupremeReader -1 points ago +2 / -3

It's not a battalion, it was one only from June to September 2014.

Since March 2022 it also expanded from a regiment to a brigade, but this happened only due to the newfound situation. A special situation like them special military operations

They were always promoted by Avakov. Zelensky finally forced him out in 2021.

How much do you know about Ukraianin politics? Anything at all?

Introduction to Avakov, from 2020: https://carnegiemoscow.org/commentary/81054

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SupremeReader 3 points ago +4 / -1

Imp is back!

Somewhat made you banned this time?

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SupremeReader -1 points ago +2 / -3

That's right, isolated mechanized columns being picked up and destroyed by light infantry was truly a novelty. But seriously actually this also happened in the Winter War, famously so (the Raate Road is a symbol of the war).

I can perhaps concede about "paratroopers doing a crossover between Crete and Dien Bien Phu but with helicopters", it's true nothing like that happened in the 21st elsewhere.

I liked the Mad Max armor from wooden logs and various crap on their trucks and APCs. Actually futuristic, in a way, the postapo aesthetics. (Stacking the ERA on the sides of BMPs was also innovative, and very eccentric as it's a cartoonish self-destruction contraption.)

DNR conscripts with the Mosin Nagants and WWII helmets and OMON with riot gear and riot trucks sent as a spearhead completed the whole package.

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SupremeReader -7 points ago +2 / -9

The first saved winreddit post, congratulations!

See you again after they won.

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SupremeReader -3 points ago +3 / -6

What "the coup"? If you mean the ones who actively participated in the revolution, it was hundreds of thousands just in a single rally (December 1).

And of those who dit it as part of the Social National Assembly and/or Patriot of Ukraine, they overwhelmingly didn't even serve in the unit until returning upon the expansion. Didn't I tell you they have tens of thousands of members (National Corps and associates)? And only a portion of them are even in the brigade now.

They're not a joke like the American far right groups. https://youtu.be/ZMf5z7wnZIA

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SupremeReader -1 points ago +2 / -3

Azov (the unit) has more members than ever, and is now a brigade of several battalions.

The Azov civilian (paramilitary) movement has tens of thousands of members.

Which is not new, because they did have tens of thousands of members (over 20,000) even before the invasion, but now they're just swelled with the new ones. And in the early days of panic massive numbers of normally apolitical civilians came to be basic trained by them (and by their RS rivals too) and got politically indoctrinated into "Social Nationalism" along the way.

They absorbed the Azov's Freikorps militias into regular units while at it. Did the same to much of the RS Volunteer Corps too.

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SupremeReader -1 points ago +2 / -3

Of course normal people will lose. Their homes are occupied, their families are displaced or even deported to Russia.

Yanukovych has 0.0% public support even in the Peoples Republics. Don't forget how he abandoned even his own hardcore supporters when he suddenly vanished, secretly fleeing the country entirely in the middle of night with stolen money, never leaving his refuge somewhere in Moscow to this very day. Now he is hated in Ukraine more than Putin, because just everyone hates him. The man who unites everybody over all divisions. Everyone would shoot him on the spot immediately, and everyone else would celebrate it. The only ones in the country who don't hate him are Russian regulars, who just don't care.

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SupremeReader 0 points ago +2 / -2

Theres no way Ukraine will ever agree for it, not after the ceasefire agreements from the 2010s that were violated in such a manner they were. They know Russia will try again in few years if is not defeated entirely now.

But they will need Western aircraft and armored vehicles for the offensive. Croatia 1995 style but with no pause. The problem is they should've been allowed to start training in the F-16s etc already on the first day in February, not just only now. The HIMARS and so and also should've been delivered asap. The West genuinely expected them to fall, like Afghanistan did, and when they didn't they waited to see if they will actually fight, then waited and waited more. Might also actually explain the sanctions, they might have thought the whole affair would only last few days. Now everyone are in for a long war.

Not the G*rmans but they were always pathological Russophiles. The French too, for all the theatrical posturing by Macron and even Le Pen, but nowhere to this degree as the fucking Germs.

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SupremeReader 0 points ago +2 / -2

Only the Luhansk Oblast is occupied entirely. Most advances there were made in the first few days when it was a blitzkrieg, since they were advancing only on selected small sections of the front and almost never even 1 km a day since the frontlines stabilized in March.

In the Donetsk Oblast in almost half year the Russians failed to even take Avdiivka literally just west to Donetsk city. It was one of the very first places that came under attack, and it's where the frontline froze back in 2015 (after the fall of Donetsk Airport). So they practically didn't take it in almost a decade.

The attempt to take or even besiege Kharkiv (the most important part of Donbass and also the second biggest city in all Ukraine) failed and was pushed back towards the border beyond normal artillery range. They're still hitting the city but with tactical and cruise missiles. But they try make a new Kharkiv offensive (https://www.dw.com/en/russia-ukraine-updates-moscow-may-seek-to-retake-kharkiv/a-62500892).

And in the South it is Ukrainians who are pushing east, and it's not a new development at all. But they're taking back just small places, one by one, but it's never international news. Even before they launched the counteroffensive there the key point of the Kherson Airbase was always in their regular artillery range, which led to much hilarity as they hit it again and again for a long time while Russians kept restocking it each time (the definition of insanity).

Overall it looks a lot like the early Iran-Iraq and the Russians are Iraqis. (Yes, I wish Ukraine had the F-14s. Instead of the poor birds being fucking shredded.)

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