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Uniquename99999999 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Ah OK, I see. That said, what is your definition of science pre-dating Christianity? Obviously technology was being created and people were attempting to apply logic to things they observed. However, the scientific method, which rapidly accelerated our progression, was created after Christianity by a Christian man.

Bear in mind, that prior to Christianity people really struggled to understand the universe around them because they ascribed unexpected behaviors to spirits and such things. People didn't even really try to understand what actually caused a fire or how lightning formed, or tornados, earthquakes, etc because they believed they lived in a universe of chaotic gods and spirits. As the idea of an all powerful God who created an ordered, and thus understandable, universe spread throughout the world, science advanced at a rate that likely* never would have occurred otherwise

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Uniquename99999999 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Those are deviations from Christianity."

"I'm not saying the American constitution is incongruent with Christianity,"

Well which is it? If you're thinking out loud, I understand, but your two statements are contradicting each other

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Uniquename99999999 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most likely misguided evangelicals. Be aware that the vast majority of Christians world wide have an actually biblical view that we are called to be stewards of the earth.

I'm curious, why do you feel the need to secure the future of mankind? The fact is, there is no future for mankind. Even if human beings managed to evade extinction for the next 100 million years, we will become extinct. Even if we somehow manage to become "immortal" the universe will either reset (thus destroying all life) or will succumb to heat death (and thus destroy all matter, including life). Whether the universe ends tomorrow or in 18 quadrillion years, all of the "good" (which cannot truly exist in your view) you accomplish in your life will inevitably be undone and will, in fact, be as if it never happened in the first place. Your struggle against the inevitable might sound noble, but truthfully...it's retarded

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Uniquename99999999 -2 points ago +1 / -3

They sure did. But how does that disprove Christianity? People observed the laws of gravity well before anyone defined it scientifically.

It absolutely makes sense that if morality exists it could be discovered through reason

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Uniquename99999999 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you capable of explaining how constitutional rights are a deviation from Christianity?

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Uniquename99999999 1 point ago +2 / -1

"Also, your claim is that objective morality is only possible as a matter of faith? Objectivity is faith, that's your argument? Pffft."

What in the absolute fuck does this even mean? If you'd like to debate me, make a point. Attempting to insult me and creating the most outlandish strawman I've ever seen instead of actually challenging my ideas makes you an ignorant child that can't accept the truth.

I'm sorry that you've failed to develop your mind to the point of being able to discuss rudimentary philosophical ideas, but that's a you problem.

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Uniquename99999999 14 points ago +22 / -8

No God, no objective morality. No objective morality and we're left with things our group likes and things our group doesn't like. As groups fragment, we're eventually left with individuals determining what's right for themselves, and the utter collapse of civilization.

If you truly understood how incredibly depraved a universe without God would be, you would do everything in your power to convince people that God existed just so that you could eke out a tolerable life before the heat death of the universe inevitably destroyed all traces of your existence. Luckily, you live in an ordered universe where good and evil exist and there are both physical and spiritual repercussions for violating said order.

If you truly believe there is no God, stop worrying about the fate of your nation. It doesn't matter in the end anyway. Instead, embrace your loved ones before they cease to exist. Enjoy what little pleasure you can before you succumb to the void. Or don't, I guess. Once you expire and the universe eventually resets itself, it will be as if you never existed in the first place anyway.

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Uniquename99999999 4 points ago +5 / -1

I mean, it is though. Mohammed (may he rest in piss) was instructed by a Catholic priest while growing up and if you read the Quran (I have) it is mostly a line by line edit of the Bible (old and new testaments). I believe Mohammed really did get beat up by a (fallen) angel, but the odds of him rewriting the Bible without consulting the original seems unlikely, especially given that he lived in a Christian nation and, as stated above, received personal instruction from a priest

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Uniquename99999999 2 points ago +3 / -1

And Islam is a fucked up form of Christianity and Judaism. Should we called Arab countries Christero-Judeo-Islamic nations?

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Uniquename99999999 3 points ago +3 / -0

Did I miss what Matt Walsh did to hurt everyone's feelings?

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Uniquename99999999 5 points ago +5 / -0

Absolutely. But you need to stop promoting it. It's bad enough sinning on your own. Leading others to sin is even worse because more souls are at risk

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Uniquename99999999 3 points ago +3 / -0

If I said you people before, then sure. But your assumption doesn't work if you understand the simple concept that how one speaks of others can change over time

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Uniquename99999999 3 points ago +3 / -0

Most of us were fine with you people when you kept your bullshit to yourselves. Now we all really do hate you. Congratulations

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